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  3. We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

    The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.

    Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.

    https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms

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    #5

    @randahl
    Ireland is investigating reports about Aughinish Alumina "very seriously" but considers the operation legal due to the lack of EU sanctions against alumina. The priority is preserving 2,000 jobs in Limerick.
    The fact that exports to Russia have risen from 23% to almost 70% since 2020 underscores the drastic dependence.
    This risky one-sidedness is also a result of management errors, as the company lost its diversified approach and the plant became a strategic subcontractor for Russia.

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    • samsenbdri@mastodon.socialS samsenbdri@mastodon.social

      @randahl
      Ireland is investigating reports about Aughinish Alumina "very seriously" but considers the operation legal due to the lack of EU sanctions against alumina. The priority is preserving 2,000 jobs in Limerick.
      The fact that exports to Russia have risen from 23% to almost 70% since 2020 underscores the drastic dependence.
      This risky one-sidedness is also a result of management errors, as the company lost its diversified approach and the plant became a strategic subcontractor for Russia.

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      #6

      @SamsenBdRi @randahl Preserving power structures in the form of company towns is going to be the death of us all. War industries, logging, car companies, …

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

        The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.

        Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.

        https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms

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        #7

        @randahl The world seems to be running crazy.
        Our leaders are corrupt,supporting the death of many innocent people instead of using such bulky funds in supporting development of life saving projects.
        My country,fighting weapons are bought from different countries using much money,yet there are no drugs in our hospitals whereby even mothers die every day and nights in health centers! they must be called death centers.
        Do you think guns and other fighting weapons are for keeping citizens alive?

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        • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

          @SamsenBdRi @randahl Preserving power structures in the form of company towns is going to be the death of us all. War industries, logging, car companies, …

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          #8

          @ahltorp @randahl
          Investment groups such as ONEXIM Group, BlackRock, Vanguard Group, etc.—as well as, for instance, Infineon (in its niche)—are the drivers of market concentration.

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          • samsenbdri@mastodon.socialS samsenbdri@mastodon.social

            @randahl
            Ireland is investigating reports about Aughinish Alumina "very seriously" but considers the operation legal due to the lack of EU sanctions against alumina. The priority is preserving 2,000 jobs in Limerick.
            The fact that exports to Russia have risen from 23% to almost 70% since 2020 underscores the drastic dependence.
            This risky one-sidedness is also a result of management errors, as the company lost its diversified approach and the plant became a strategic subcontractor for Russia.

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            #9

            @SamsenBdRi @randahl So people die to keep 2000 jobs? Moral and decency is a stranger here 😒

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            • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

              @SamsenBdRi @randahl So people die to keep 2000 jobs? Moral and decency is a stranger here 😒

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              #10

              @connynasch @randahl
              Wrong perspective!
              People are allegedly dying and losing their livelihoods because corporate leadership—whether intentionally (out of greed) or due to a lack of competence (foresight)—has failed, and continues to fail, to live up to its responsibilities. Just as the EU failed to prevent this with its latest package of sanctions against Russia.

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              • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                @SamsenBdRi @randahl So people die to keep 2000 jobs? Moral and decency is a stranger here 😒

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                #11

                @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl Really?

                1. The EU hasn't sanctioned the product.
                2. Ireland applies EU sanctions.
                3. Ireland has taken in, housed and supported more Ukrainian refugees per head of population than any other EU country.
                4. As a non-NATO member it has contributed non-lethal aid to Ukraine.

                Why don't you look up Ireland's contributions to UN peacekeeping in which Irish soldiers get killed frequently.

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                • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                  @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl Really?

                  1. The EU hasn't sanctioned the product.
                  2. Ireland applies EU sanctions.
                  3. Ireland has taken in, housed and supported more Ukrainian refugees per head of population than any other EU country.
                  4. As a non-NATO member it has contributed non-lethal aid to Ukraine.

                  Why don't you look up Ireland's contributions to UN peacekeeping in which Irish soldiers get killed frequently.

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                  #12

                  @samueljohnson @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl In the article the request is to sanction the export of aluminium which would resolve your point 1&2. And what is the point in doing your points 3&4 while at the same time supplying material to Russia for weapons? Weapon manufacturars in Russia are santionned btw. And then there is as always morality, not number 1 for most businesses but important imo.

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                  • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                    @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl Really?

                    1. The EU hasn't sanctioned the product.
                    2. Ireland applies EU sanctions.
                    3. Ireland has taken in, housed and supported more Ukrainian refugees per head of population than any other EU country.
                    4. As a non-NATO member it has contributed non-lethal aid to Ukraine.

                    Why don't you look up Ireland's contributions to UN peacekeeping in which Irish soldiers get killed frequently.

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                    #13

                    @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
                    I claimed nothing else; rather, I clearly defined the responsibility (companies/investors and the EU).

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                    • nairamtrab@mastodon.socialN nairamtrab@mastodon.social

                      @samueljohnson @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl In the article the request is to sanction the export of aluminium which would resolve your point 1&2. And what is the point in doing your points 3&4 while at the same time supplying material to Russia for weapons? Weapon manufacturars in Russia are santionned btw. And then there is as always morality, not number 1 for most businesses but important imo.

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                      #14

                      @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
                      The problem would be comprehensively resolved if the EU were to carry out its work thoroughly. Nevertheless, the local workers and people would still be adversely affected—because all those in positions of responsibility failed to act with foresight and human dignity.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

                        The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.

                        Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.

                        https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms

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                        #15

                        @randahl Rusal also owns a factory in Sweden that should have been seized a long time ago:

                        https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasternorrland/misstankta-sanktionsbrott-oro-kring-ryska-kubal-i-sundsvall

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                        • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                          @randahl Rusal also owns a factory in Sweden that should have been seized a long time ago:

                          https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasternorrland/misstankta-sanktionsbrott-oro-kring-ryska-kubal-i-sundsvall

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                          @randahl Calls from one of the smaller parties in the parliament (Centerpartiet, centre-right but non-authoritarian liberal) to nationalise the Rusal owned factory have been reiterated:

                          https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasternorrland/efter-polisens-tillslag-mot-kubal-nya-krav-om-statlig-tvangsforvaltning

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                          • nairamtrab@mastodon.socialN nairamtrab@mastodon.social

                            @samueljohnson @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl In the article the request is to sanction the export of aluminium which would resolve your point 1&2. And what is the point in doing your points 3&4 while at the same time supplying material to Russia for weapons? Weapon manufacturars in Russia are santionned btw. And then there is as always morality, not number 1 for most businesses but important imo.

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                            #17

                            @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl "In matters of death, SPECTRE is strictly impartial"

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

                              The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.

                              Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.

                              https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms

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                              #18

                              @randahl

                              In Ireland, a government spokesperson told the Irish Times that authorities were “aware of reports relating to Aughinish Alumina,” were taking them “very seriously,” and were actively examining the issues raised.

                              In clear text, ireland is making money and as long as it does so nothing will change.

                              Russia can continue making weapons parts from Aluminium produced in EU.

                              What a disgusting shitshow.

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                              • samsenbdri@mastodon.socialS samsenbdri@mastodon.social

                                @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
                                The problem would be comprehensively resolved if the EU were to carry out its work thoroughly. Nevertheless, the local workers and people would still be adversely affected—because all those in positions of responsibility failed to act with foresight and human dignity.

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                                #19

                                @SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl This is simplistic. There isn't a country in Europe that isn't trading with Russia either directly or indirectly. Some are importing hydrocarbons. Some are exporting goods via 3rd parties in Turkey and elsewhere. Anyone would think Ireland was exporting weapons. It isn't. Alumina is also used for other things. The Irish govt will take action if and when EU sanctions include alumina. So far that hasn't happened.

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  We are 1536 days into the Ukraine war, and Ireland is still helping the Russian weapons factories with raw materials.

                                  The Russian production of aluminum used in the drones that kill civilians in Ukraine is made possible by the raw material alumina from Irish company Aughinish Alumina, which is owned by Russian company Rusal.

                                  Irish authorities need to take over that factory Monday morning.

                                  https://www.occrp.org/en/news/european-lawmakers-alumina-russian-arms

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                                  @randahl That's so past unacceptable...

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                                  • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                                    @SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl This is simplistic. There isn't a country in Europe that isn't trading with Russia either directly or indirectly. Some are importing hydrocarbons. Some are exporting goods via 3rd parties in Turkey and elsewhere. Anyone would think Ireland was exporting weapons. It isn't. Alumina is also used for other things. The Irish govt will take action if and when EU sanctions include alumina. So far that hasn't happened.

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                                    #21

                                    @samueljohnson @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl
                                    That's not entirely correct.

                                    To reiterate:

                                    Instead of diversifying the business after the outbreak of war in 2022 (i.e., seeking more customers in Europe or the USA), Aughinish Alumina's management actually massively increased exports to Russia.

                                    While Russia accounted for only about 23% of exports in 2020, this share rose to an estimated 68% to 70% by 2024.

                                    The government tolerated this?

                                    Please stick to the point (locale), Samuel.

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                                    • samsenbdri@mastodon.socialS samsenbdri@mastodon.social

                                      @samueljohnson @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl
                                      That's not entirely correct.

                                      To reiterate:

                                      Instead of diversifying the business after the outbreak of war in 2022 (i.e., seeking more customers in Europe or the USA), Aughinish Alumina's management actually massively increased exports to Russia.

                                      While Russia accounted for only about 23% of exports in 2020, this share rose to an estimated 68% to 70% by 2024.

                                      The government tolerated this?

                                      Please stick to the point (locale), Samuel.

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                                      #22

                                      @SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl Nothing you have just written contradicts a word of what I wrote. Take your own advice please.

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                                      • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                        @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @SamsenBdRi @randahl "In matters of death, SPECTRE is strictly impartial"

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                                        #23

                                        @ahltorp @Nairamtrab @samueljohnson @connynasch @randahl
                                        That's amusing, and I'm always up for something amusing/sarcastic.

                                        But Putin isn't impartial.💣

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                                        • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                                          @SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl This is simplistic. There isn't a country in Europe that isn't trading with Russia either directly or indirectly. Some are importing hydrocarbons. Some are exporting goods via 3rd parties in Turkey and elsewhere. Anyone would think Ireland was exporting weapons. It isn't. Alumina is also used for other things. The Irish govt will take action if and when EU sanctions include alumina. So far that hasn't happened.

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                                          #24

                                          @samueljohnson Who is "the EU"? Who specifically makes that decision?

                                          (Along with decisions such as banning tourist visas for Russians, to take an example closer to me...)

                                          @SamsenBdRi @Nairamtrab @connynasch @randahl

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