Pour info les gens qui sont encore fans de Proton Mail : ils sponsorisent des vidéos de Vincent Lapierre (le youtubeur d'extrême droite)

reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden

@nileane I mean, their CEO did come out in support of Trump a while back, didn't he?

loptimist@piaille.fr

@nileane Lors du soutien du CTO à la politique de Trump j'ai bougé sur l'offre Zimbra d'OVH car peu cher même si les données ne sont pas chiffrées sur leurs serveurs (je l'utilise uniquement comme boite de réception pour les services auquel je suis abonné).

Concernant les alternatives à Proton, peux de fournisseurs permettent de payer de manière anonyme (paiement postal ou cryptomonnaies). A ma connaissance, il n'y a que Mailbox qui le permet.

moonchild@rivals.space

@nileane Malheureusement tous les produits issus de sponso YouTube sont rarement bons

Dès qu'une compagnie fait la pub de ses produits chez des influenceurs (qui dans la grande majorité des cas ne connaissent rien au sujet), c'est un gros red flag pour moi

ced@mapstodon.space

@loptimist @nileane https://posteo.de aussi, et c’est un très bon service, par contre ils ne supportent pas les noms de domaines customisables.

shobeck@indieweb.social

@nileane @protonprivacy - any comment on why your brand is being associated with right wing youtubers?

danie1@mastodon.nl

@nileane this site does not exist or was taken down by Proton mail https://proton.me/vincentlapierre
Did someone check if the Vincent's statement was true?
As I see it, Proton was not sponsoring this Vincent. They have a program that if you bring a new client you get a small amount: https://proton.me/partners

eriko_hana@shelter.moe

@nileane Errrrrggg....

Thunderbird et Infomaniak, ça tient où ça va vriller droitard dans pas longtemps ?

loptimist@piaille.fr

@ced @nileane Ça peut être suffisant pour certaines organisations militantes. Merci pour le lien.

acidepoulain@mstdn.social

@andrewz @slothrop @nileane

I just checked on the actual Youtube channel and the right-wing extremist really has a sponsor section, he talks about proton mail for a few minutes at the start of the video

It's not clear if a human at proton was actually involved though, maybe he simply generated an affiliate link and is trying to get people to click it

EDIT: they issued a statement and claim that this channel kinda slipped through their review process

sassinake@mastodon.social

@Shobeck @nileane @protonprivacy
I'd like to know too

arnaud_tabarly@mastodon.social

@nileane merci pour l'info

benaveling@mastodon.ie

Q. Is that evidence of sponsorship, or is that just an affiliate link that proton wouldn’t have to have approved?
@nileane

ckiyme@autonomous.zone

@WorldTravelerAll7 Proton has shown time and time again to be unreliable. Plus, they have a big corpo mentality, trying to give you all the app at once Google style, and that inevitably leads to downfalls.

Tuta does one thing and they do it well. Email. They advocate and fight for privacy all the time, they don't comply with the governement, they're way more transparent that Proton on all they do.

What to do/use is your choice, the important thing is making it an informed decision.

ckiyme@autonomous.zone

@WorldTravelerAll7 That said, Tuta is not the only option of course. There's Posteo, Startmail, Disroot and much more.

jvnknvlgl@social.postkantoor.cloud

@nileane do you possibly have recommendations for alternatives?

Edit: if you reply to this message please untag Niléane as she has stated she has no interest in alternatives to Proton.

wraith@demanufacture.org

@BenAveling @nileane That's my question as well - lacking French language of course but the link looks like an affiliate link each user can generate. Anyway, a statement on this would be nice, @protonprivacy!