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“If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

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  • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

    “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

    Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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    #30

    @overholt

    - discovering 14 yo CVEs
    - improving weather modelling
    - improving protein folding
    - improving crystalline material discovery
    - clean-room open source rewrites of rentier software (Adobe,...)
    - decompiling and reverse engineering rentier software and hardware

    I think we're going in the right direction with AI

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    • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

      @Scrimshaw9 @overholt You can't 'teach' the AI about democracy. It's not the 'AI' that needs to learn about that. It's the guys running the systems. And the only reason they're getting money is the promise of destroying democracy. Take that away, it all collapses.

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      #31

      @maccruiskeen @overholt What? You absoultely can develop models that value democracy and equality. So... nice cop out, I guess. Keep throwing baby out with the bathwater, see where that leads us. 🙄

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      • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

        “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

        Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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        #32

        @overholt
        Does "left behind" mean "left alone?" That's what I'd really like.

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        • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

          “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

          Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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          #33

          @overholt "Where are we going?"
          "AI city"
          "Leave me behind"

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          • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

            @maccruiskeen @overholt What? You absoultely can develop models that value democracy and equality. So... nice cop out, I guess. Keep throwing baby out with the bathwater, see where that leads us. 🙄

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            #34

            @Scrimshaw9 @maccruiskeen @overholt you can't teach these computer programs anything because they can't "learn". They can't place emotional value on anything. These are algorithmic word guessing, weighted probability machines. Just math(s). It's nothing more than a very expensive parlor trick.

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            • joltrast@mastodon.socialJ joltrast@mastodon.social

              @Scrimshaw9 @maccruiskeen @overholt you can't teach these computer programs anything because they can't "learn". They can't place emotional value on anything. These are algorithmic word guessing, weighted probability machines. Just math(s). It's nothing more than a very expensive parlor trick.

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              #35

              @joltrast @maccruiskeen @overholt Is democracy not math? Is electioneering not algorithmic math itself? Come on man... y'all pretend to be stupid while going out of your way pretending to be victims.

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              • rupert@mastodon.nzR rupert@mastodon.nz

                @jbqueru @overholt I remember being a callow youth telling old COBOLers that they were going to get left behind if they didn't learn an OO language.
                Then we went through Y2K and they all retired early and I'm still working.

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                #36

                @rupert@mastodon.nz @jbqueru@floss.social @overholt@glammr.us Ignoring that OO is a big mistake outside of simulations, which include UIs, from everything I’ve heard the “old COBOLers” retire so much as got riffed.

                Some from lack of demand due to switching to other languages as you allude to, some because it was perceived they weren’t needed anymore, certainly not compared to cheaper young whippersnappers. COBOL still runs a lot of the world, though.

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                • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                  @joltrast @maccruiskeen @overholt Is democracy not math? Is electioneering not algorithmic math itself? Come on man... y'all pretend to be stupid while going out of your way pretending to be victims.

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                  #37

                  @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt no, it is not math. It is participation, action.

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                  • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                    “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                    Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                    #38

                    @overholt
                    watching the slop-coded bus drive off the cliff

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                    • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                      @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt no, it is not math. It is participation, action.

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                      #39

                      @maccruiskeen @joltrast @overholt You found your way onto the metaverse yet you're pretending like there isn't an equivelent for AI because the circle jerk is to pretend that you're a victim of fascist AI creators. There's literally ppl trying for a humanist Ai and y'all pretending like Ai is all the same fascist thing in all instace.

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                      • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                        @maccruiskeen @joltrast @overholt You found your way onto the metaverse yet you're pretending like there isn't an equivelent for AI because the circle jerk is to pretend that you're a victim of fascist AI creators. There's literally ppl trying for a humanist Ai and y'all pretending like Ai is all the same fascist thing in all instace.

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                        #40

                        @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt 'Humanist AI'? AI is the opposite of humanist, intrinsically. It is literally the removal of the human.

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                        • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                          @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt 'Humanist AI'? AI is the opposite of humanist, intrinsically. It is literally the removal of the human.

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                          #41

                          @maccruiskeen @joltrast @overholt I'm done. You're being obtuse and we've been round and round and you're not acknowledging what I'm saying and I might as well be talking to a wall because you're so tied into the circle jerk of Ai=bad. You're part of the proud ignorance of contemperary circle jerk anti tech populism... an anti with no ideas and no knowledge of the issue. AI ain't going away. This whole "conversation" is evidennce of the Left not being able to meme.

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                          • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                            “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                            Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                            #42

                            @overholt The problem is they are taking us with them by force, AI boosters don't understand consent.

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                            • carrideen@c18.masto.hostC carrideen@c18.masto.host

                              @overholt My brother offered to jailbreak my Gemini so I could join him in forcing it to give us medical advice for my mother, who is probably dying, and whose medical records we don't have access to. No thanks! I don't even have a Gemini.

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                              #43

                              @carrideen @overholt he’s probably just finding a way to deal and is in denial maybe. I wish you strength 😞

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                              • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                                “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                                Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                                #44

                                @overholt Ditto What Sap. "You're missing out on things" No, you're excluding people who don't sell their soul to Zuckerberg.

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