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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @redsad

    i hate the reflexive dreary "that's AI" kind of comment under everything that seems too good to be true, but i admit at first i thought this was AI

    nope

    it's a reversed image of a still from the Charlie Chaplin film "Pay Day" (1922)

    https://youtu.be/qWmoHvYhl4k

    (at exactly 21 seconds in)

    which is quite incredible

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    #21

    @benroyce @redsad
    My reaction was "Please let it be not-AI, please let it so someone already posted a link to the original..."
    So thanks you for your service 🤠🤏🤌🎩

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @JigmeDatse @redsad @etenil

      no the image above is real

      but like you said, "that's #AI" is really "i don't like this"

      the problem of fakery, turbocharged with AI, is not that fakes. i mean those are a problem obviously, but they aren't the real problem

      the real problem is AI makes us doubt everything

      so what do we use as a guide of truth or fiction? our biases: "i don't like this, so it must be fake"

      so all the "this is AI" comments become a droning background noise of reflexive prejudice

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      #22

      @benroyce @JigmeDatse @redsad @etenil

      Don't know about others, but for me many times it's "this is too good to be true, it's probably AI". Where "too good" is not in the sense of high quality, just fits our wishes or imagination too well.

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      • redsad@ohai.socialR redsad@ohai.social

        I love this so much

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        #23

        @redsad 😂

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        • yaarur@tooot.imY yaarur@tooot.im

          @benroyce @redsad
          My reaction was "Please let it be not-AI, please let it so someone already posted a link to the original..."
          So thanks you for your service 🤠🤏🤌🎩

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          #24

          @yaarur @redsad

          the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

          but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

          i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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          • johny28@thecanadian.socialJ johny28@thecanadian.social

            @benroyce
            https://xkcd.com/331/

            @etenil @redsad

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            #25

            @Johny28 @etenil @redsad 😂

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            • danimo@kolektiva.socialD danimo@kolektiva.social

              @benroyce There are also some good reasons to suspect AI is involved here.
              The precise framing, as seen in the more recent meme, and the fact that such progressive camera angles—with people walking past the camera in a blurred close-up—are quite atypical for that era.
              I’ve been studying film for 30 years now—and I had to watch the original video, knowing full well that it’s “real,” just to be convinced.
              In just 2–5 years, that’s likely to be much harder if the flood of slop in the media continues like this.

              @redsad

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              #26

              @danimo @redsad

              yup

              the posting date of 2017 clinches it

              but in the future, can we trust youtube with truthful posting dates if it is wholly part of an abusive plutocrat agenda?

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @yaarur @redsad

                the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                #27

                @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

                The word for that is "Orwellian" for a reason

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                • stevewfolds@mastodon.worldS stevewfolds@mastodon.world

                  @benroyce @etenil @redsad
                  I said that a picture was “photoshopped” yesterday. Likely to have been done by AI. It was a news article showing Trump with smooth skin instead or reality. Photos were “airbrushed” or “retouched” for publication long before computers could do it.

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                  #28

                  @stevewfolds @etenil @redsad

                  airbrush and scalpel! 🥴

                  https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/116705797784498812

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                  • redsad@ohai.socialR redsad@ohai.social

                    I love this so much

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                    #29

                    @redsad

                    "There is nothing new under the Sun!"

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                    • johny28@thecanadian.socialJ johny28@thecanadian.social

                      @benroyce
                      https://xkcd.com/331/

                      @etenil @redsad

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                      #30

                      @Johny28 @benroyce @etenil @redsad

                      Alt Text: "When I look into your eyes, I see JPEG artifacts. I can tell by the pixels that we're wrong for each other."

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                      • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                        @Johny28 @benroyce @etenil @redsad

                        Alt Text: "When I look into your eyes, I see JPEG artifacts. I can tell by the pixels that we're wrong for each other."

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                        #31

                        @SeanPLynch @Johny28 @etenil @redsad

                        😆

                        the future of dating

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @yaarur @redsad

                          the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                          but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                          i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                          #32

                          @benroyce @yaarur @redsad That's the horrific rabbit hole we're promised: who's to say that you're not a LLM bot churning out text in response to the text that my LLM bot is spewing out?

                          I mean, it's not and I don't believe it is either, but the doubt is out there now.

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                          • redsad@ohai.socialR redsad@ohai.social

                            I love this so much

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                            #33

                            @redsad it's so good! 🤣

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                              #34

                              @FediThing @benroyce @yaarur @redsad "If people want to digitise everything, they make everything open to manipulation." and that is the objective as to why, See Orwell's 1984 for more details

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @yaarur @redsad

                                the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                                but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                                i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                                #35

                                @benroyce @yaarur @redsad dystopian future? Is already as dystopian as the movies and novels, all of them.

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                                • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

                                  @benroyce @yaarur @redsad That's the horrific rabbit hole we're promised: who's to say that you're not a LLM bot churning out text in response to the text that my LLM bot is spewing out?

                                  I mean, it's not and I don't believe it is either, but the doubt is out there now.

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                                  #36

                                  @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                  a sybil attack

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

                                  i think you're real

                                  i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

                                  but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

                                  well then we are truly fucked

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @yaarur @redsad

                                    the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                                    but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                                    i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                                    #37

                                    @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

                                    We need the black wall from cyberpunk

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                                    • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

                                      @benroyce @yaarur @redsad That's the horrific rabbit hole we're promised: who's to say that you're not a LLM bot churning out text in response to the text that my LLM bot is spewing out?

                                      I mean, it's not and I don't believe it is either, but the doubt is out there now.

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                                      #38

                                      @flipper @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

                                      Don't worry, you can use the AI to check whether something was made by the AI.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                        a sybil attack

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

                                        i think you're real

                                        i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

                                        but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

                                        well then we are truly fucked

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                                        #39

                                        @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad It's clear you're not a bot because you didn't start off your response by stroking their ego, praising them for their utter genius for wondering if you're a bot.

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                                        • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                                          @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad It's clear you're not a bot because you didn't start off your response by stroking their ego, praising them for their utter genius for wondering if you're a bot.

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                                          #40

                                          @zazzoo @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                          Hi Zazzoo!

                                          Wonderful getting your reply. It is a pleasure to know you. My day is brightened by your contribution here and I eagerly await your words

                                          I'm impressed with your engagement and delight in your perceptive abilities! You're a credit to our shared concerns

                                          Let us work together now in rejoicing in Elon Musk's accomplishments. There is a certain level of discontent with him on social media service Mastodon which we are duty bound to tranquilize

                                          (/s)

                                          🥴

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