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  • P print@theforkiverse.com

    Hi everyone,

    If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

    #LikeThisExample

    Not #likethisexample

    Why?

    A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

    B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

    Thanks you

    #TheForkiverse

    benjamincox@writing.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @print @alice I do this every time and it annoys me when people don’t. It’s not hard and makes a world of difference. 👍

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    • crabby@mastodon.worldC crabby@mastodon.world

      @print

      I always thought it was

      #camelCase

      and your example was

      #PascalCase ?

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      print@theforkiverse.com
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      #10

      @crabby
      Wikipedia calls the example as Pascal case or upper camel case.

      Your example with initial lower case is a example of lower camel case or dromedary case.

      I guess we are both correct and I have learnt something.

      Either way is better than all lowercase.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

        scandigonian@pnw.zoneS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @alice
        😆

        @print

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        • P print@theforkiverse.com

          Hi everyone,

          If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

          #LikeThisExample

          Not #likethisexample

          Why?

          A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

          B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

          Thanks you

          #TheForkiverse

          chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #12

          @print what does it do with snake case #are_these_read_as_separate_words ?

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          • P print@theforkiverse.com

            @d1

            Tusky tries to do the same. Have to force it.

            libewa@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            @print @d1
            Official Mastodon app (and website, iirc) too… seems to be the norm.

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            • P print@theforkiverse.com

              Hi everyone,

              If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

              #LikeThisExample

              Not #likethisexample

              Why?

              A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

              B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

              Thanks you

              #TheForkiverse

              heylaiverd@mastodon.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
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              heylaiverd@mastodon.nl
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              #14

              @print The people who keep pointing fingers at me for not adding ALT text to all my photos are the same people who never use capitals (camel case) in their hashtags. 🤷‍♀️

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

                secbox@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #15

                @alice @print

                #letitsnow

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

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                  #16

                  @alice @print The domain expertsexchange.com is hall of fame material for this problem

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                  • heylaiverd@mastodon.nlH heylaiverd@mastodon.nl

                    @print The people who keep pointing fingers at me for not adding ALT text to all my photos are the same people who never use capitals (camel case) in their hashtags. 🤷‍♀️

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                    print@theforkiverse.com
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #17

                    @HeyLaiverd

                    Yeah, I haven't had thise people for a while, they don't seem to have a problem with my posts anymore, because they are blocked.

                    People are free to use Mastodon etc how they want. People forget, have other stuff going on or trying to do stuff on phone keyboards. And that is ok. Been there myself.

                    This instance has a large amount of new people, so trying to educate and make it a normal. Which encourages others to use camel case and alt text as the default.

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                    • P print@theforkiverse.com

                      Hi everyone,

                      If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                      #LikeThisExample

                      Not #likethisexample

                      Why?

                      A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                      B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                      Thanks you

                      #TheForkiverse

                      trimtab@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @print
                      OP was slightly ambiguous on A).. So do screen readers understand upper camel case and read out the words nicely? If not then are you indirectly saying it changes nothing for them?

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                      • P print@theforkiverse.com

                        Hi everyone,

                        If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                        #LikeThisExample

                        Not #likethisexample

                        Why?

                        A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                        B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                        Thanks you

                        #TheForkiverse

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                        #19

                        @print

                        B for me. Camel case pleases my #ConanTheGrammarian instincts as opposed to the #horriblesplurgeoflowercase abominations.

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                        • P print@theforkiverse.com

                          Hi everyone,

                          If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                          #LikeThisExample

                          Not #likethisexample

                          Why?

                          A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                          B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                          Thanks you

                          #TheForkiverse

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                          #20

                          @print

                          Agreed

                          Depending on the instance you're on this likely *Does* require purposeful intent though..

                          I.E. people are being tricked into "doing the wrong thing" by the auto complete popups (for hashtags) that are supplied from their instance's server(s)

                          "The system" defaults to showing you "auto complete" hashtags and the auto complete versions are almost always in lower case. So, if someone selects the system supplied suggestion.. they get "the bad result"

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                          • P print@theforkiverse.com

                            Hi everyone,

                            If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                            #LikeThisExample

                            Not #likethisexample

                            Why?

                            A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                            B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                            Thanks you

                            #TheForkiverse

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                            #21

                            @print but camel case would actually be #likeThisExample

                            No caps on first letter.

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                            • chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC chuckmcmanis@chaos.social

                              @print what does it do with snake case #are_these_read_as_separate_words ?

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                              #22

                              @ChuckMcManis @print
                              I tried it with iOS built in TTS. It can read it out ok.
                              Interestingly it can also read out the all lower case hashtag properly. Although with a slight change on stress in "example".
                              I guess you'd need to see what commonly used screen readers read out.

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                              • shiawase@mastodon.socialS shiawase@mastodon.social

                                @ChuckMcManis @print
                                I tried it with iOS built in TTS. It can read it out ok.
                                Interestingly it can also read out the all lower case hashtag properly. Although with a slight change on stress in "example".
                                I guess you'd need to see what commonly used screen readers read out.

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                                #23

                                @ChuckMcManis @print
                                Also probably pure chance. It didn't really cope with @alice 's examples.

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                                • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                  Hi everyone,

                                  If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                                  #LikeThisExample

                                  Not #likethisexample

                                  Why?

                                  A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                                  B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                                  Thanks you

                                  #TheForkiverse

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                                  #24

                                  @print I think you won't find a single post without camel case hashtags in my profile 😉

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                                  • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                    @d1

                                    Tusky tries to do the same. Have to force it.

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                                    #25

                                    @print @d1 it depends on what the server offers as continuation which is apparently the first version the server has seen.

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                                    • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                      Hi everyone,

                                      If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                                      #LikeThisExample

                                      Not #likethisexample

                                      Why?

                                      A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                                      B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                                      Thanks you

                                      #TheForkiverse

                                      ciourte@piaille.frC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #26

                                      And if you're wondering "Why not #snake_case_hashtags though? They work just as well."
                                      Yeah, they even work better since you can capitalize letters and single-letter words don't make it weird, but you will never convince the majority to switch, so just give up and join them. 😛

                                      @print

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                                      • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                        Hi everyone,

                                        If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                                        #LikeThisExample

                                        Not #likethisexample

                                        Why?

                                        A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                                        B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                                        Thanks you

                                        #TheForkiverse

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                                        #27

                                        @print ah, sorry, I had been originally misinformed that #'s worked best all in lower case.. I will try rewire my behaviour!

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          @print and it avoids issues like #lovescats or #susanalbumparty

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                                          #28

                                          @alice

                                          I also hate seeing people write text where every other word is a hashtag, as it makes text illegible and goodness knows how that comes across in text readers!

                                          Far better to put them right at the foot of a post!

                                          @print

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