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  3. Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • knud@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @fathermcgruder @sundogplanets

    Kinda, I want something like "mute+". Literally blocking beyond that post so they don't poison future threads.

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    • sam@chven.usS sam@chven.us
      just looked it up and found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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      #32

      @sam Thanks! Everyday is a school day.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

        moving_pictures@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @sundogplanets Familiar with mansplaining but ... Sea Lion? Not heard of that one ... clarify?

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        • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

          @fathermcgruder @sundogplanets

          Kinda, I want something like "mute+". Literally blocking beyond that post so they don't poison future threads.

          fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @knud The offender can always get a new account and other thread participants can decide for themselves if they want to mute. Besides, everything we post is public anyway. Block button overrated.
          @sundogplanets

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          • paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP paul@social.lightlyseared.online

            @capnthommo It's a form of trolling that involves endless bad-faith questions.

            Wikipedia has fuller explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

            @sundogplanets

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            #35

            @Paul @sundogplanets oh yes. I had come across it before but I'd forgotten.thanks

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            • moving_pictures@metalhead.clubM moving_pictures@metalhead.club

              @sundogplanets Familiar with mansplaining but ... Sea Lion? Not heard of that one ... clarify?

              bumblefish@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36

              @Moving_Pictures @sundogplanets Demanding that she clarify is the first step on the slippery slope to sea lioning. If you google it, you'll find out.

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              • bur_d@mastodon.socialB bur_d@mastodon.social

                @sundogplanets I don't understand this post, what are these mapliners and sealions doing and what are they?

                bumblefish@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @bur_d @sundogplanets Google exists.

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                • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

                  @bur_d @sundogplanets Google exists.

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                  #38

                  @Bumblefish @sundogplanets wasn't aware

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                    bumblefish@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #39

                    @sundogplanets If there's a grey zone, 'Thanks for your effort!' will clear it up instantly.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                      wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #40

                      @sundogplanets 💯

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                      • bur_d@mastodon.socialB bur_d@mastodon.social

                        @Bumblefish @sundogplanets wasn't aware

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                        #41

                        @bur_d @sundogplanets Now y'are. You can also scroll down this thread where several people have helpfully explained.

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                        • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

                          @sundogplanets sea lions?

                          hadon@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #42

                          @capnthommo @sundogplanets

                          I'm also learning the term:

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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                          • sam@chven.usS sam@chven.us
                            just looked it up and found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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                            #43

                            @sam @AndrewGambrill Much obliged, thank you.

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                            • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

                              @bur_d @sundogplanets Now y'are. You can also scroll down this thread where several people have helpfully explained.

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                              #44

                              @Bumblefish @sundogplanets would this then be considered mansplaining?

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                              • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                                @knud The offender can always get a new account and other thread participants can decide for themselves if they want to mute. Besides, everything we post is public anyway. Block button overrated.
                                @sundogplanets

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                                #45

                                @knud That said there should definitely be an optional reason field that you can fill out whenever you block someone. Also a duration setting. #FeatureRequest #ActivityPub
                                @sundogplanets

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                                • bur_d@mastodon.socialB bur_d@mastodon.social

                                  @Bumblefish @sundogplanets would this then be considered mansplaining?

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                                  #46

                                  @bur_d @sundogplanets Thanks for your question! A rep will be with you shortly!

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                                  • andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA andrewgambrill@mastodon.social

                                    @sam Thanks! Everyday is a school day.

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                                    #47

                                    @AndrewGambrill @sam I didn't know this either. That said I was enjoying the idea that for she was blocking anyone who posted pictures of them balancing a ball on their nose 😋

                                    I learned a new term so that's good though.

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                                    • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

                                      @bur_d @sundogplanets Thanks for your question! A rep will be with you shortly!

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                                      #48

                                      @Bumblefish @sundogplanets lol

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                                      • jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ jguillaumes@mastodont.cat

                                        @sundogplanets @cstross please don’t take this as sealioning (it _could_ be something a sealion would ask, but believe me, this is not my intention)

                                        Where is the limit of ‘honest asking’ or ‘honest trying to explain’ to ‘sealioning’ or ‘mainaplaining’!

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                                        #49

                                        @jguillaumes @sundogplanets @cstross

                                        I was wondering the same. Specially that in the internet many times there are misunderstandings. We read sentences without having other cues (tone of voice, face expressions), so we can misunderstand a sentence. Specially that we are all from different backgrounds (different native languages, etc).

                                        Sometimes I read a sentence, reply, and 20 minutes later I realize I misunderstood 😄 (and come back to correct or apologize, whatever is needed ).

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                                          #50

                                          @sundogplanets

                                          Why not just ignore them? If you block them they won't have a chance to learn anything anymore.

                                          You explain once and if they don't like it or accept it then just ignore them. You don't need to explain twice.

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