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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

    One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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    #27

    @mcc Leaving aside the other considerations...

    "Just wiggle your cursor and watch it come alive with Gemini, offering quick, contextual suggestions every time you point at something on your screen."

    That just sounds like a usability nightmare. I do not want a flood of popups every time I jiggle my cursor.

    What a stupid dystopia we're living in.

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

      milkman@dmv.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #28

      @mcc
      Good grief! ☹️ I"m already struggling with these touch screen devices. It's hard to even hold the phone securely without ever so lightly touching it and launching some unintended action.

      Now this new Googlebook sounds like the system will go one step farther. It's going to decide what I want to do even when I'm navigating the screen under complete control, trying to do something else.

      I'm was a command line guy-- years of working as a Unix/Linux administrator. I'm accustomed to giving instructions to my computer, not the other way around.

      But since I retired several years ago, I feel like computer software and hardware design has raced light years ahead of my ability to comprehend.

      I've literally gone from configuring UUCP to transfer data between hard wired systems to now transferring text messages to friends by voice command over wireless networks. I remember when every system on the Internet (Arpanet in those days) had to be listed line by line in a text file that everyone had to download.

      Instead of buying a Googlebook, maybe I'll go dust off my old IBM ThinkPad, install some Linux distro and just enjoy the good old days. 😔

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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        #29

        @mcc Gee, anyone remember long ago, when the google would was a new thing, and they would proudly spew their core belief of "do no wrong"?

        I sure do.

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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          #30

          @mcc listen when people tell you things.

          “Introducing Googlebook, designed for Gemini Intelligence”

          This wasn’t designed to make your life easier. It was designed to bring you to their product.

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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            #31

            @mcc I assume the boot loader will be locked in such a way we can't replace the OS with anything useful, as well, so that'll be great.

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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

              One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

              bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32

              @mcc I wonder how locked down the hardware will be. In a couple of years, maybe these things will be cheap, and they can be wiped and have Linux installed on them.

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              • unlikelylass@mspsocial.netU unlikelylass@mspsocial.net

                @mcc I assume the boot loader will be locked in such a way we can't replace the OS with anything useful, as well, so that'll be great.

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                #33

                @Unlikelylass @mcc They already say you need to also have an android 17+ phone, so....

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                • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

                  @mcc Leaving aside the other considerations...

                  "Just wiggle your cursor and watch it come alive with Gemini, offering quick, contextual suggestions every time you point at something on your screen."

                  That just sounds like a usability nightmare. I do not want a flood of popups every time I jiggle my cursor.

                  What a stupid dystopia we're living in.

                  pchestek@fosstodon.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #34

                  Is it the year of the Linix desktop yet?

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    @Unlikelylass @mcc They already say you need to also have an android 17+ phone, so....

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                    #35

                    @mhoye @mcc boo

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                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                      @mcc I wish there was a third phone.

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                      #36

                      @xgranade @mcc I do wonder at what point the various Android phone manufacturers decide G have gone too far, conclude they can still sell phones without Play et al, and switch to GrapheneOS (or their own hard fork, since these things can never be simple)

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                      • unlikelylass@mspsocial.netU unlikelylass@mspsocial.net

                        @mhoye @mcc boo

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                        #37

                        @mhoye @mcc actually, how is that supposed to work in a school, if this is replacing chromebooks?

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

                          aperture@snug.moeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #38

                          @mcc the like number one question i have whenever i see anything like this is just like.
                          who wants this??? what does this solve????????

                          like every single time i see a brand do this it doesn't. solve anything?? it just introduces new problems

                          like, their example of it being useful is it prompting you to "share your japan pictures" or whatever and then it just fucking opens your pictures folder when the button to do that is literally right there like ????? who is this helping

                          legitimately this bubble is so perplexing to me

                          - carrie

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                          • aperture@snug.moeA aperture@snug.moe

                            @mcc the like number one question i have whenever i see anything like this is just like.
                            who wants this??? what does this solve????????

                            like every single time i see a brand do this it doesn't. solve anything?? it just introduces new problems

                            like, their example of it being useful is it prompting you to "share your japan pictures" or whatever and then it just fucking opens your pictures folder when the button to do that is literally right there like ????? who is this helping

                            legitimately this bubble is so perplexing to me

                            - carrie

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                            #39

                            @mcc "I've invented the worlds first tuna can that doubles as a condom!" like okay???? nobody even, thought that they might want that some day?? this isn't solving a real problem that anyone is having

                            - carrie

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                            • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

                              @jrdepriest @mcc the whole "Device Attestation" shite and them choosing to go with Motorola, which are so #AntiRepairDesign that they argue with @EUCommission about the #EU-wide #SupportDuration…

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                              #40

                              @kkarhan

                              what should they be doing instead?

                              @jrdepriest @mcc @EUCommission

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                              • unlikelylass@mspsocial.netU unlikelylass@mspsocial.net

                                @mhoye @mcc actually, how is that supposed to work in a school, if this is replacing chromebooks?

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                                #41

                                @Unlikelylass @mcc I suspect that this is going to be something more like the chromebook pixel, a limited-run high end proof of concept thing, but who knows. Google has very little tenacity when it comes to hardware.

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                                • ag7gm@mastodon.radioA ag7gm@mastodon.radio

                                  @mcc Gee, anyone remember long ago, when the google would was a new thing, and they would proudly spew their core belief of "do no wrong"?

                                  I sure do.

                                  npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #42

                                  @AG7GM @mcc

                                  When an entity welcomes investment from murderous petrostate despots & anti-democracy oil oligarchs, their goals inevitably become warped & perverse.

                                  #PrinceBonesaw spent $100 billion to get an international state surveillance platform.

                                  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

                                  https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligencer-trump-mbs-meeting-brings-ai-money-2025-11-20/

                                  Koch spent a billion to coerce AI user adoption.
                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

                                  We continue to underestimate how far the oil industry is willing to go to thwart democracy & climate action.

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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                    One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                    #43

                                    @mcc my god, they’ve somehow managed to make chromebooks *worse*

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                                    • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

                                      @jrdepriest @mcc the whole "Device Attestation" shite and them choosing to go with Motorola, which are so #AntiRepairDesign that they argue with @EUCommission about the #EU-wide #SupportDuration…

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                                      #44

                                      @kkarhan @mcc @EUCommission

                                      I assumed they "went with Motorola" because they were the only ones to return their calls. It's not like there is a huge or vocal movement for de-Googled Android phones. It's still incredibly niche. I really hope the partnership with Motorola helps more people realize that such a thing is even possible.

                                      I looked up "Device Attestation" for GrapheneOS.

                                      https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

                                      Is that what you are talking about? How they support and use a lower level of "attestation" so that people who make Android apps won't feel compelled to force their apps to only be valid when "attested" via the official Google Play Store? That sounds like a good thing. It sounds like a necessary thing before some developers will even consider supporting GrapheneOS.

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                                      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                        @Unlikelylass @mcc I suspect that this is going to be something more like the chromebook pixel, a limited-run high end proof of concept thing, but who knows. Google has very little tenacity when it comes to hardware.

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                                        #45

                                        @mhoye @Unlikelylass thanks for the perspective

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                                          #46

                                          @otte_homan @zambezi what i believe display name means is that the state is moving in the opposite direction of banning it. they are moving in the direction of requiring it. if google is scanning everything, this is helpful to certain parts of the government because they can subpeona the scans.

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