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If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI.

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  • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

    RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

    If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

    thisislieven@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @Maristya Just recently I had someone tell me how AI was incredibly helpful and to a benefit of us all. He gave two examples:

    a) he asked for help how to convince his wife that his choice for a name for their upcoming baby was the best.
    b) whether or not it was a good idea to head to the gym that day.

    I basically exploded. Also told him that because of his stupid questions now two children had perished from dehydration.

    He did not find it funny.

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    • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

      RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

      If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

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      #4

      @Maristya
      Basically my only use-case is the minimum at work so I won't attract attention and maybe lose my job.

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      • thisislieven@c.imT thisislieven@c.im

        @Maristya Just recently I had someone tell me how AI was incredibly helpful and to a benefit of us all. He gave two examples:

        a) he asked for help how to convince his wife that his choice for a name for their upcoming baby was the best.
        b) whether or not it was a good idea to head to the gym that day.

        I basically exploded. Also told him that because of his stupid questions now two children had perished from dehydration.

        He did not find it funny.

        dagb@snabelen.noD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @thisislieven
        The stupid day to day questions prompted is mindboggling. To me it seems like people do not want, bother or find it uncomfortable to make simple decisions.

        I am quite worried that they will blame AI for suggesting things that will hurt a persons relations. Actually caring for the people around you and making decisions that are "right" must be done all the time. It is a feature that up ones personality.

        @Maristya

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        • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

          RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

          If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

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          failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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          #6

          @Maristya

          I think this is true

          telling people to not use AI is useless, as AI is already part of life and most people won't boycott it or can't

          what is useful is the hard work of regulationg AI like a utility, thru gov't action

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          • dagb@snabelen.noD dagb@snabelen.no

            @thisislieven
            The stupid day to day questions prompted is mindboggling. To me it seems like people do not want, bother or find it uncomfortable to make simple decisions.

            I am quite worried that they will blame AI for suggesting things that will hurt a persons relations. Actually caring for the people around you and making decisions that are "right" must be done all the time. It is a feature that up ones personality.

            @Maristya

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            #7

            @dagb

            This use I see as sort of an 'external intuition' - not daring to trust on your own. It's one of the worst ways to use AI if you ask me, it's literally making us less functional as humans and more stunted in our interactions with each other.

            That first question about how to convince his wife also really sat wrong with me regardless of where he asked it. This is not a sign of a healthy relationship.

            It were actually indicators of his right wing leanings which disturbed me more and more. Particularly his rant against wokeism despite being European, being unable to explain the word and being a cishet white dude talking to a nb queer person of colour.

            He came into my life in an unexpected way and I made him leave it just as fast. He's studying to become a psychiatrist...

            Sorry, that was a rant but the larger point is indeed that AI is doing very serious harm to people, relationships and society at large. Because luckily social media didn't do that already.

            @Maristya

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            • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

              RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

              If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

              clintruin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              clintruin@mastodon.social
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              #8

              @Maristya
              ☠️
              https://youtu.be/kON2ZI2BNj8?si=75zZgVMA3RmXFTg5

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              • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

                RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

                If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

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                #9

                @Maristya @baldur @Futurism
                Saving tin foil for the war effort, banning plastic shopping bags and avoiding AI use are personal satisfaction and total folly. Only a responsible government can control the production and use of products & services.

                Let us all put our resources into every effort to change our government. For Federal government, get out the mid-term vote. Even more effective is local district, town, city, county and state government. Each of us can have a comparatively major impact from local our efforts. You must SHOW UP!

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                • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

                  RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

                  If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

                  trainguyrom@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @Maristya the way I see it, if your usecase doesn't involve building a dataset and training your own custom ML model, chances are whatever you're doing can be better done without involving an LLM

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                  • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

                    RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

                    If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

                    mysticmilo@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @Maristya Remember "Fuck AI" includes the google AI overview!! Use a more eco friendly search engine like Ecosia!! They plant a tree for every 45 searches 🌲🌳
                    (P.s. Ecosia does have AI overviews too but you are able to disable them very easily)

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                    • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

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                      If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

                      bebadefabo@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      bebadefabo@mastodon.social
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                      #12

                      @Maristya and maybe team up with some friends to dump some concrete into the HVAC system of your local data center

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                      • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

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                        If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

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                        #13

                        @Maristya my take is the faster we reach the 3.5% of people protesting this shit, the more we can salvage from our ravaged planet/society. So we need to 100xTokenmaxx the shit out of it, so that even the smallest wife-manipulating gym-avoiding imebcile feels on his own flaking skin how bad this all is. Otherwise i cant see this change happening quickly enough.

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                        • connynasch@mastodon.socialC connynasch@mastodon.social

                          @Maristya I am without words, oh no - just one - horrendous!

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                          #14

                          @connynasch
                          I'm with words. Many are profanities.
                          @Maristya

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                          • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

                            RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

                            If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

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                            #15

                            @Maristya I'm confused by this article. The authors keep saying "it's not just the data centers", but the only examples they give are ... power plants being built to serve data centers.

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                            • maristya@norden.socialM maristya@norden.social

                              RE: https://flipboard.com/@futurism/all-about-artificial-intelligence-c4ob1hesz/-/a-RCHarXmXSG-Zj1wbkLZY1Q%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

                              If you care about a livable future for humanity on this planet, don’t use AI. Just don’t. Not for shopping, condensing literature to shortcut reading or for writing your homework, not for anything so trivial. The small amount of special use cases is enough.

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                              #16

                              @Maristya actually, I would like to see the blame put on the enablers, the town, districts, and cities that allow the construction of the datacenters. I think there are often people paid under the table to put thru the building permits.

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                              • aethel@mastodon.socialA aethel@mastodon.social

                                @Maristya my take is the faster we reach the 3.5% of people protesting this shit, the more we can salvage from our ravaged planet/society. So we need to 100xTokenmaxx the shit out of it, so that even the smallest wife-manipulating gym-avoiding imebcile feels on his own flaking skin how bad this all is. Otherwise i cant see this change happening quickly enough.

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                                #17

                                @Aethel @Maristya I dunno. My company might be spending 2x the cost of a full time engineer monthly on this. Maybe 10 or 20 people are using it heavily? Maybe a couple hundred using it at all.

                                I can't imagine them turning off the pipe due to environmental concerns.

                                If 200 of us all used $2000 worth per month that's only like the cost of 12 engineers. And the people who are really opposed can't be convinced to touch it.

                                Corps will just put monthly limits in place. It'll burn the world slowly.

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                                • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                                  @Aethel @Maristya I dunno. My company might be spending 2x the cost of a full time engineer monthly on this. Maybe 10 or 20 people are using it heavily? Maybe a couple hundred using it at all.

                                  I can't imagine them turning off the pipe due to environmental concerns.

                                  If 200 of us all used $2000 worth per month that's only like the cost of 12 engineers. And the people who are really opposed can't be convinced to touch it.

                                  Corps will just put monthly limits in place. It'll burn the world slowly.

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                                  #18

                                  @Aethel @Maristya it is not clear how high the prices will go. If AI vendors need to charge 100x current prices to make a profit, Corp will start looking at output metrics and only use it where they "think" it is cost effective.

                                  That will leave a lot of engineers without access to the ai. Which is just back to where we started. Corp wouldn't ever pay for the nice IDE or the fastest computers, even though those were clear efficiency gains.

                                  So the bubble will slowly pop...

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