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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

    🤞 🤞 🤞

    If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

    Fuck your #cynicism

    VOTE

    Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

    pascaline@mastodon.nlP carbon_compound@mastodon.socialC hans@social.woefdram.nlH jztusk@mastodon.socialJ idahobucks@mastodon.socialI 10 Replies Last reply
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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

      🤞 🤞 🤞

      If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

      Fuck your #cynicism

      VOTE

      Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

      pascaline@mastodon.nlP This user is from outside of this forum
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      pascaline@mastodon.nl
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @benroyce

      Yeeees pleeeeease let's do this, world!

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

        🤞 🤞 🤞

        If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

        Fuck your #cynicism

        VOTE

        Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

        carbon_compound@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        carbon_compound@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @benroyce I live close to the .hu border and I know some Hungarians.
        They are as stupid as Austrians, Muricans or Russians.

        Mark my words when it comes to elections.

        missqarnstein@eldritch.cafeM 1 Reply Last reply
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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

          🤞 🤞 🤞

          If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

          Fuck your #cynicism

          VOTE

          Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

          hans@social.woefdram.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
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          hans@social.woefdram.nl
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4
          @Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 I'm afraid both Putin and the orange knuckle dragger will help their brownshirt buddy to win the elections...

          Just as I don't think the midterms are going to be real. If they take place at all...
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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

            🤞 🤞 🤞

            If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

            Fuck your #cynicism

            VOTE

            Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

            jztusk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jztusk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jztusk@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @benroyce

            I don't think calling people "lazy entitled lumps" is going to make them more likely to vote.

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            • hans@social.woefdram.nlH hans@social.woefdram.nl
              @Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 I'm afraid both Putin and the orange knuckle dragger will help their brownshirt buddy to win the elections...

              Just as I don't think the midterms are going to be real. If they take place at all...
              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @hans

              the vote is controlled by the states

              i am not registering my disagreement with you i am registering my disgust with you

              if you say the midterms aren't real, people have no reason to vote, therefore MAGA wins

              is this what you want?

              are you trying to help trump on purpose?

              i don't think so

              but *you are* helping trump with such ignorant cynical and cowardly words

              do not say these lies about the midterms ever again

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              • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                @benroyce

                I don't think calling people "lazy entitled lumps" is going to make them more likely to vote.

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @jztusk

                i don't think anything we could ever say will get them to vote

                so therefore we will indeed shame them, so anyone else listening who is not a lazy entitled lump does vote

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @jztusk

                  i don't think anything we could ever say will get them to vote

                  so therefore we will indeed shame them, so anyone else listening who is not a lazy entitled lump does vote

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @benroyce

                  Well, that's definitely a strategy, and you've thought about what you think will be the most effective, and I've got no evidence that it isn't, so go ahead I guess (not that you need my permission).

                  Me, I'm going to go ahead with trying to show people it's in their own best interests to vote. Maybe between the two of us we'll cover all the bases? 🤷

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                  • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce

                    Well, that's definitely a strategy, and you've thought about what you think will be the most effective, and I've got no evidence that it isn't, so go ahead I guess (not that you need my permission).

                    Me, I'm going to go ahead with trying to show people it's in their own best interests to vote. Maybe between the two of us we'll cover all the bases? 🤷

                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @jztusk

                    so let's say you take one of these typical assholes whining loudly about how they won't vote until {X} happens

                    say everyone bends over backwards and makes {X} happen

                    they still won't vote. they will invent a new reason not to

                    this is their identity. making dramatic displays of their "moral superiority" to justify their indolence, entitlement, and alienation

                    of course, morality without action isn't morality at all, it's just ego masturbation

                    they're losers. literally: they lose

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

                      🤞 🤞 🤞

                      If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

                      Fuck your #cynicism

                      VOTE

                      Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

                      idahobucks@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      idahobucks@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @benroyce not sure you can actually vote out facism.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB iju@mastodon.socialI H 3 Replies Last reply
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                      • idahobucks@mastodon.socialI idahobucks@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce not sure you can actually vote out facism.

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                        #11

                        @idahobucks

                        who won the 2020 us presidential election? and who was president at the time?

                        thank you to everyone who showed up and voted then

                        you agree?

                        so get the fuck out of here with your cowardice and premature capitulation

                        vote, you spineless asshole

                        if fascism does destroy us democracy, it will be because of MAGA, and meek submissive fear-addled weak whiners like you

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @jztusk

                          so let's say you take one of these typical assholes whining loudly about how they won't vote until {X} happens

                          say everyone bends over backwards and makes {X} happen

                          they still won't vote. they will invent a new reason not to

                          this is their identity. making dramatic displays of their "moral superiority" to justify their indolence, entitlement, and alienation

                          of course, morality without action isn't morality at all, it's just ego masturbation

                          they're losers. literally: they lose

                          jztusk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @benroyce

                          Yeah, the ones with a ransom list can just drift away for all I care - they will never accomplish anything, and I'm done wasting my time on them.

                          But there are still lots of other people who don't vote for other reasons: they're busy, they haven't got the habit, they don't think they can make a difference, despair, etc. And I do not want us speaking shorthand and saying "fuck non-voters" to push any of those away...

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @idahobucks

                            who won the 2020 us presidential election? and who was president at the time?

                            thank you to everyone who showed up and voted then

                            you agree?

                            so get the fuck out of here with your cowardice and premature capitulation

                            vote, you spineless asshole

                            if fascism does destroy us democracy, it will be because of MAGA, and meek submissive fear-addled weak whiners like you

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                            #13

                            @benroyce you are missing the big picture. There is no real push back at all right now. We the people seem to think the Dems will save us which is not the case. We are in the five alarm stage now and people keep talking about voting and laws. The president doesn't worry about laws as he does what he wants like making himself billions of dollars. I have no idea what to do and don't see any real push back. Minnesota pushed back for a while and it's over even though ICE is in the suburbs right now.

                            benroyce@mastodon.socialB cy@fedicy.us.toC edelruth@mastodon.onlineE 3 Replies Last reply
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                            • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce

                              Yeah, the ones with a ransom list can just drift away for all I care - they will never accomplish anything, and I'm done wasting my time on them.

                              But there are still lots of other people who don't vote for other reasons: they're busy, they haven't got the habit, they don't think they can make a difference, despair, etc. And I do not want us speaking shorthand and saying "fuck non-voters" to push any of those away...

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                              jztusk@mastodon.social
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                              #14

                              @benroyce

                              ... So me, I'm careful in my language. I'm happy to refer to the first type as "pretty prancing purity ponies", or "the folks who didn't vote against the Nazis", but I want to leaves an opening for the second type, and make it clear that they are welcome to join in.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

                                🤞 🤞 🤞

                                If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

                                Fuck your #cynicism

                                VOTE

                                Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🤭

                                iju@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                iju@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @benroyce

                                Spent few days at Hungary in Nov 2924 (was swapping trains), and visited a state-sponsored exhibition adjacent to the city museum.

                                The city museum spent a lot of time talking about how the city population got massacred when the city was captured from Ottomans in the late 17th century.

                                Then you moved to the state-sponsored exhibition which outright mentioned that the massacre was good, actually, as it allowed large-scale infrastructure improvements.

                                Felt dirty just for being there.

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                                • idahobucks@mastodon.socialI idahobucks@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce not sure you can actually vote out facism.

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                                  #16

                                  @idahobucks @benroyce

                                  Sure you can. You just need enough of the population to being committed for the change.

                                  The state apparatus is a complex house of cards, and if people don't support it, it collapses.

                                  People always forget that there's no true absolutist monarchy. The monarch is always supported by special interests, and they in turn by their special interests. If you lose the support of the army, or the railway workers, etc., then it's all over.

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                                  • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce

                                    Yeah, the ones with a ransom list can just drift away for all I care - they will never accomplish anything, and I'm done wasting my time on them.

                                    But there are still lots of other people who don't vote for other reasons: they're busy, they haven't got the habit, they don't think they can make a difference, despair, etc. And I do not want us speaking shorthand and saying "fuck non-voters" to push any of those away...

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                                    #17

                                    @jztusk

                                    Littterer A is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and soothes their precious feelings and otherwise validates their behavior

                                    Litterer B is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and smashes their side mirror while other people cheer

                                    Which will make the litterer think?

                                    Your problem is your false assumption people who don't vote have a valid reason. They don't. They're just entitled lazy assholes

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                                    • idahobucks@mastodon.socialI idahobucks@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce you are missing the big picture. There is no real push back at all right now. We the people seem to think the Dems will save us which is not the case. We are in the five alarm stage now and people keep talking about voting and laws. The president doesn't worry about laws as he does what he wants like making himself billions of dollars. I have no idea what to do and don't see any real push back. Minnesota pushed back for a while and it's over even though ICE is in the suburbs right now.

                                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      benroyce@mastodon.social
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                                      #18

                                      @idahobucks

                                      Do you vote?

                                      If so good

                                      That's what we need. Then we gradually iterate to better

                                      Buy if you don't vote, go fuck yourself. You're the reason as much as MAGA why we are sliding to fascism

                                      All these fucking lazy rationalizations do is serve various weaknesses and character failures that, in aggregate with other whiny losers, leads to fascism

                                      That's it

                                      VOTE

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @jztusk

                                        Littterer A is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and soothes their precious feelings and otherwise validates their behavior

                                        Litterer B is shown a video where someone litters out their car window and someone walks up and smashes their side mirror while other people cheer

                                        Which will make the litterer think?

                                        Your problem is your false assumption people who don't vote have a valid reason. They don't. They're just entitled lazy assholes

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                                        jztusk@mastodon.social
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                                        #19

                                        @benroyce

                                        We disagree.

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                                        • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce

                                          We disagree.

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                                          #20

                                          @jztusk of course we do

                                          So you go out there and validate and soothe the precious feelings of lazy entitled assholes and let me know how it goes. Good luck

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