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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @s3a @georgetakei

    could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

    we want the usa to improve, yes?

    so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

    we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

    cynicism is acceptance of fascism

    the cynic is MAGA's best friend

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    #18

    @benroyce This is not cowardly spineless cynicism. It's realism. We need to do something now and not wait for elections. Waiting for elections that are very unlikely to happen fairly is what is spineless.

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    • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

      Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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      #19

      @georgetakei

      This threat would be more believable if Obama had prosecuted the Bush war crimes.

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      • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

        @benroyce This is not cowardly spineless cynicism. It's realism. We need to do something now and not wait for elections. Waiting for elections that are very unlikely to happen fairly is what is spineless.

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        #20

        @s3a

        nobody said "wait for elections"

        so don't speak of realism when you feel a need to insert a lie into what someone else wrote, and in fact stands in contrast to what they wrote

        showing you don't have much grasp on reality and realism

        the cynic very much blocks reality with their empty spineless hopelessness

        that is the problem

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        • diesch@loma.mlD diesch@loma.ml
          @georgetakei Has any U.S. administration ever prosecuted American war criminals?
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          #21

          @diesch @georgetakei Kissinger won the Nobel

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @s3a

            nobody said "wait for elections"

            so don't speak of realism when you feel a need to insert a lie into what someone else wrote, and in fact stands in contrast to what they wrote

            showing you don't have much grasp on reality and realism

            the cynic very much blocks reality with their empty spineless hopelessness

            that is the problem

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #22

            @benroyce I said "bold of you to assume there will be elections." and you are having an extreme emotional response to that and attacking me as a person because I said we have to do things now, before the elections, when you responded angrily to a comment I made that had only to do with elections.

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            • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

              @benroyce I said "bold of you to assume there will be elections." and you are having an extreme emotional response to that and attacking me as a person because I said we have to do things now, before the elections, when you responded angrily to a comment I made that had only to do with elections.

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              #23

              @s3a

              oh i'm sorry for commenting topically on your ignorant lie about my words and changing the topic to some inaccurate bullshit about "realism"

              please excuse my terrible transgression

              but thanks for changing the topic and avoiding my point, which means you get it and aren't honest enough to admit it, or you can't read at all

              oh wait, we already established that

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @s3a

                oh i'm sorry for commenting topically on your ignorant lie about my words and changing the topic to some inaccurate bullshit about "realism"

                please excuse my terrible transgression

                but thanks for changing the topic and avoiding my point, which means you get it and aren't honest enough to admit it, or you can't read at all

                oh wait, we already established that

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                #24

                @benroyce Your reaction is very strange and over the top. I hope you get help.

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                • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

                  @benroyce Your reaction is very strange and over the top. I hope you get help.

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                  #25

                  @s3a

                  hi and welcome to mastodon, where people post things and others respond to them

                  i thank you very kindly for responding to my post with your whiny inaccurate bullshit about "realism"

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @s3a

                    hi and welcome to mastodon, where people post things and others respond to them

                    i thank you very kindly for responding to my post with your whiny inaccurate bullshit about "realism"

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                    #26

                    @benroyce I am not the one whining, guy. I'm not upset that you replied to me. I am not upset. You, however, seem VERY upset about a comment I made in reply to a celebrity. Again, I hope you get help.

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                    • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

                      @benroyce I am not the one whining, guy. I'm not upset that you replied to me. I am not upset. You, however, seem VERY upset about a comment I made in reply to a celebrity. Again, I hope you get help.

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                      #27

                      @s3a

                      unread

                      uninterested

                      please read george's top post again, and think about how you can contribute meaningfully and positively to fix the usa, rather than whining empty mindless cynicism

                      thank you oh so very much my good friend

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @s3a

                        unread

                        uninterested

                        please read george's top post again, and think about how you can contribute meaningfully and positively to fix the usa, rather than whining empty mindless cynicism

                        thank you oh so very much my good friend

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                        #28

                        @benroyce Babe, if you're so interested, maybe stop engaging? lol this is so unhealthy and strange.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @s3a

                          unread

                          uninterested

                          please read george's top post again, and think about how you can contribute meaningfully and positively to fix the usa, rather than whining empty mindless cynicism

                          thank you oh so very much my good friend

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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #29

                          @s3a

                          ...they said, continuing to engage

                          😂

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @swordgeek @georgetakei

                            could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

                            we want the usa to improve, yes?

                            so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

                            we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

                            cynicism is acceptance of fascism

                            the cynic is MAGA's best friend

                            jakenke@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            jakenke@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #30

                            @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

                            I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.

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                            • jakenke@mastodon.socialJ jakenke@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

                              I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.

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                              #31

                              @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                              some is troll psyop from MAGA and geopolitical actors. maybe not paid troll farm, just random edgelords enjoying a game

                              but entitled, lazy detached people who consider themselves on the left is also real

                              a mirror image of MAGA in terms of a rotten society. these fake leftists are as bad as MAGA

                              fake leftists because they do not have an ideological position, they have a psychological position

                              they don't care about improving society, they care about whining

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                              • jakenke@mastodon.socialJ jakenke@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.

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                                manyroads@mstdn.social
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                                #32

                                @Jakenke @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei Have you considered not playing their game? So long as people drink the cool-aid (left or right) they retain control. Here's a great example of Trump ( #Taco ) blinking...

                                https://mstdn.social/@ManyRoads/116364555001927978

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                                • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                                  Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                                  #33

                                  @georgetakei zero people have ever been held accountable.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                    could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

                                    we want the usa to improve, yes?

                                    so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

                                    we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

                                    cynicism is acceptance of fascism

                                    the cynic is MAGA's best friend

                                    lordkhan@social.cologneL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #34

                                    @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei you’re right. I still observe myself being being sarcastic or cynical to cope with all that shit, but I also realize that this won’t improve anything. There’s still hope.

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                                    • manyroads@mstdn.socialM manyroads@mstdn.social

                                      @Jakenke @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei Have you considered not playing their game? So long as people drink the cool-aid (left or right) they retain control. Here's a great example of Trump ( #Taco ) blinking...

                                      https://mstdn.social/@ManyRoads/116364555001927978

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                                      #35

                                      @ManyRoads @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                      well we feel a need to call it out

                                      george writes a hopeful post and you can see under george's top post above many comments exhibiting this sort of dissipated, ineffectual impotent mindless cynicism that is all too common in the world

                                      and only serves to help MAGA

                                      so we'll call it out

                                      it may be pointless for the person we are responding to, these whiners often seem too far gone and insincere

                                      it's for the sake of everyone else reading along

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                                      • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                                        Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                                        #36

                                        @georgetakei This is why Trump & Hegseth are firing Generals & Admirals. They want leaders that will disobey the USMJ and International Laws about wartime actions.

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                                        • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                                          @benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei you’re right. I still observe myself being being sarcastic or cynical to cope with all that shit, but I also realize that this won’t improve anything. There’s still hope.

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                                          #37

                                          @lordkhan @swordgeek @georgetakei

                                          self-awareness

                                          you have it, to your credit

                                          and i as well can feel bleak. we all do at times

                                          but it seems to be a dying artform in this world where some can pull themselves out of it, and others wallow in it and make it their entire identity

                                          defeated people. learned helplessness

                                          they only serve as an aid to MAGA

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