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  • ppulfer@mastodon.ieP ppulfer@mastodon.ie

    @utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, my thoughts are on the biggest resource consumption of a datacenter: Cooling and Energy, which is very taxing right now on our existing capabilities.

    We'd shift from constant CO2 emitting energy consumption on earth to solar in space and move away from using fresh water for cooling, which is becoming more and more scarce.

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    #117

    @ppulfer

    The point is that it's _really difficult_ to remove heat in space. Those datacenters will need to run at _much_ slower speeds than datacenters on Earth.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhysics/comments/1o1d0xd/why_cant_we_put_data_centers_in_orbit_where_they/

    @utf_7 @sundogplanets

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

      https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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      #118

      @sundogplanets did they solved the cooling problem?

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

        https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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        #119

        Does anyone have estimates how much #Starlink stock might be earmarked for #Trump loyalists?

        #corruption #maga

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

          https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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          #120

          @sundogplanets KESSLER NOW

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

            THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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            #121

            @sundogplanets ... what the fuck does that even mean? I know I could search for it, but I'm not sure I want that in my search history.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

              Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

              https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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              #122

              @sundogplanets Starlink is going to launch a satellite cell phone service, also most airlines are switching to Starlink internet service, so I think it is natural that they will need a lot more satellites. Starship is going to be able to deliver them into orbit.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                #123

                @sundogplanets

                It's not April fools but it is the day after he appeared in the Epstein files in the most embarrassing way possible

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                  THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                  #124

                  @sundogplanets I thought the Dyson sphere was supposed to go around the Sun, not around the Earth ...

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                    THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                    #125

                    @sundogplanets did someone just finish reading @cstross 's _accelerando_ and decide it wasn't featuring future earth as a dystopia?

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                    • palmandneedle@norden.socialP palmandneedle@norden.social

                      @deborahh @sundogplanets long at times. And kinda weirdly chunked up. But enjoyable

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                      #126

                      @PalmAndNeedle @deborahh @sundogplanets I was a big fan but 7 Eves turned me off: dopey biological determinism leading to sexism & racism...

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                        https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                        #127
                        @sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        If I'm lucky I'll be gone before they start advertising.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                          https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                          #128

                          @sundogplanets That's something like 17,000 falcon 9 launches... they did 606 last year.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                            THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                            #129

                            @sundogplanets Imagine being familiar with the Kardashev scale but unfamiliar with Kessler syndrome

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                            • jakebrake@ohai.socialJ jakebrake@ohai.social

                              @sundogplanets

                              Bezos: Oh yeah? Well AWS will put TWO million data centers in orbit!

                              China: Let 5 million space data centers bloom!

                              Musk: Well, then SpaceX will put TEN million centers in orbit!

                              Bezos: Fine! ELEVENTY million AWS centers!

                              Musk: Hah! TWELVETY million SpaceX centers! Each with a cool robot!

                              Bezos: Meh-meh-meh-robot-meh. Amazon has robots.

                              Musk: But not COOL robots.

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                              #130

                              @jakebrake There's a German comic "Elon & Jeff on Mars" that goes like this (https://www.carlsen.de/hardcover/elon-jeff-mars/978-3-551-80572-0)

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                              • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                @sundogplanets

                                It's not April fools but it is the day after he appeared in the Epstein files in the most embarrassing way possible

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                                #131

                                Elmo is too mouthy... They had to cut him loose.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                  THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                  #132

                                  @sundogplanets
                                  Seems they're (intentionally?) confusing Kardashiev and Kessler

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                    Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                    https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                                    #133

                                    @sundogplanets if they speak of datacenters - I imagine them to be much larger than starlink satellites and they would need a lot of energy. I guess they will have huge solar panels.

                                    This is bat-shit crazy if true.

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                                    • chancerubbage@mastodon.socialC chancerubbage@mastodon.social

                                      @sundogplanets @Barbramon1

                                      Typical SpaceX Starlink communications satellites are roughly the size of a table or small car, weighing between 570 lbs (260 kg) for earlier models and up to 1,630+ lbs (740+ kg) for newer "V2 Mini" versions. They measure approximately 2.8 to 3.2 meters long, 1.4 to 1.6 meters wide, and are thin, designed for flat-packing in Falcon 9 rockets.

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                                      #134

                                      @Chancerubbage @sundogplanets @Barbramon1 Most importantly, there are far too many of them already.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                        https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                                        #135

                                        @sundogplanets@mastodon.social It's utterly batshit insane.

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                                        • ppulfer@mastodon.ieP ppulfer@mastodon.ie

                                          @sundogplanets, why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

                                          For example, datacenters are being constructed with massive discounts by councils/municipals and in turn, water and electricity bill of residential area gets higher to pay that offset of costs.

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                                          #136

                                          @ppulfer@mastodon.ie @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Um, no. Not really.

                                          Granted, in an orbit with the right inclination, you can get continuous sunlight, and that sunlight is several times more intense than at ground level. So power can be relatively abundant.

                                          However, a ground-based datacenter can use conductive and convective cooling, both of which can be highly efficient at removing heat even at only moderate temperatures. In space the
                                          only mechanism you have, in the end, is radiative cooling... and the physics of black-body radiation are such that a datacenter satellite that hasn't yet fried every semiconductor within it simply isn't hot enough to efficiently radiate as much heat as it's going to generate.

                                          Relatively low-power communications satellites are one thing. We've proven that works. We've proven we can cool astronomical instruments to their optimal working temperatures, though it sometimes takes some very clever solutions. But
                                          datacenters in satellites? That's madness.

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