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Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing.

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  • emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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    emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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    #6

    @asltf @BuyFromEU "trusted" computing keeps being a disgrage. If app issuers don't trust my device they're free to give me a smart card or a gold old RSA token instead.

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    • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

      Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

      #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

      eobeara@mastodon.ieE This user is from outside of this forum
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      eobeara@mastodon.ie
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      #7

      @BuyFromEU The alt text says Denmark the most at 89%, but the image shows Ireland at 93%.

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      • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

        Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

        #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

        jpaskaruk@growers.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @BuyFromEU The entire non-Usia world should be treating new fibre on land, and new cables by sea that route around that damage, the same way they treated the financing of WWII - because it would be an act of world self-defense.

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        • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

          Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

          #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

          perjakobsen@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          perjakobsen@mastodon.social
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          #9

          @BuyFromEU

          Come on Europeans - we must be able to do better without the US. (especially the Nordics need to)

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          • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

            Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

            #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

            paranoiq@witter.czP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @BuyFromEU this would have huge consequences, beginning from US companies being disobbedient, through siezing us datacenters and military bases, whole world switching to open-source and self-hosting, tech alliance of EU and China, EU federation, economic chaos not only in Europe, possibly more civil unrest in US, etc. most critical european services would recover in weeks or months, but the damage to US reputation and world economy would be emormous

            of course the switch will never be flipped

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            • paranoiq@witter.czP paranoiq@witter.cz

              @BuyFromEU this would have huge consequences, beginning from US companies being disobbedient, through siezing us datacenters and military bases, whole world switching to open-source and self-hosting, tech alliance of EU and China, EU federation, economic chaos not only in Europe, possibly more civil unrest in US, etc. most critical european services would recover in weeks or months, but the damage to US reputation and world economy would be emormous

              of course the switch will never be flipped

              paranoiq@witter.czP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @BuyFromEU longer version of comment, that does not fit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/s/zAPqK9DpPw

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              • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

                moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @BuyFromEU
                i would be running, but i am not a company...

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                • ch4ptr@theforkiverse.comC ch4ptr@theforkiverse.com

                  @BuyFromEU This is such a sad state of affairs. In Denmark Microsoft is just the default for everything, even though it's one of the worst and most infuriating suites of software ever created... But it seems like it's been a wake up call, the two largest municipalities are actively seeking to break free, and there's hopefully more to come.

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                  #13

                  @ch4ptr @BuyFromEU This has been a wake-up call for me. I would've never thought of changing OS, apps and social media had it not been for the insanity that's going on with the USA

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                  • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                    Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                    #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                    princessue@mastodon.social
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                    #14

                    @BuyFromEU Trump needs to go

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                    • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                      Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                      #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                      ch2ds@mastodon.social
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                      #15

                      @BuyFromEU the problem with Poland, Bolgaria and Romania is that they depend on russian tech, such as Telegram.

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                        #16

                        @OndrejZizka @BuyFromEU Czechia is missing there, but I'm sure that it is very dependent. Almost all Czech PCs run on Windows (and the most of the rest on Mac OS), US cloud services are heavily used (Azure, AWS, Google Cloud...), card payments use MC or Visa, almost all smartphones and tablets run on Android or iOS...

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                        • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                          Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                          #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                          #17

                          @BuyFromEU I'd like to see #Canada depicted/assessed in the same way - probably worse than #Bulgaria. #ElbowsUp

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                          • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                            Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                            #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

                            kolya@social.cologneK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #18

                            @BuyFromEU @davep
                            We haven't reached the level of prosperity we enjoy by economic autonomy but by global trade. And the US are a big player in that. Of course Europe should be able to stand on its own but I think that arguing for becoming independent from the US is about as clever as Trump's tariffs. Both would hurt the global economy immensely and everyone would lose. Not just Trump.

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                            • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                              Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                              #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

                              dfgomes@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #19

                              @BuyFromEU The only viable way is via Linux and FOSS software. Plus devices like Fairphone (phones) and Framework (computers).

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                              • eobeara@mastodon.ieE eobeara@mastodon.ie

                                @BuyFromEU The alt text says Denmark the most at 89%, but the image shows Ireland at 93%.

                                pesasa@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20

                                @BuyFromEU @eobeara Iceland 97 %

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                                • kolya@social.cologneK kolya@social.cologne

                                  @BuyFromEU @davep
                                  We haven't reached the level of prosperity we enjoy by economic autonomy but by global trade. And the US are a big player in that. Of course Europe should be able to stand on its own but I think that arguing for becoming independent from the US is about as clever as Trump's tariffs. Both would hurt the global economy immensely and everyone would lose. Not just Trump.

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                                  #21

                                  @kolya @BuyFromEU
                                  I think it's specifically about hyperscaler tech platforms and European dependence on them. We can't undo the realisation that we can't trust the US since Trump's aggressive second tenure. And this is a huge risk.

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                                  • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                                    Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                                    #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

                                    utopiah@mastodon.pirateparty.beU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22

                                    @BuyFromEU link to the source please, seems they are relying on email usage which might not be the best proxy.

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                                    • buyfromeu@mastodon.socialB buyfromeu@mastodon.social

                                      Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                                      #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

                                      paulk@writing.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @BuyFromEU This is not worrying at all, is it?

                                      😱

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