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  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

    RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

    I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

    To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

    Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

    The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

    Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

    Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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    #37

    @neurovagrant
    @alex

    Easy Peasy...

    The so-called "AI" will simply dispatch SWAT any time a pizza is ordered on a 911 call...

    Why is this difficult??

    FFS.

    🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤡🫏🖕🖕💩💩

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    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

      RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

      I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

      To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

      Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

      The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

      Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

      Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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      #38

      @neurovagrant automatic voice calls are already annoying. I can’t understand anyone who wants to add onto that.

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      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

        RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

        I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

        To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

        Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

        The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

        Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

        Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

        npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #39

        @neurovagrant

        https://www.newsweek.com/jess-edwards-teen-child-marriage-opposed-republican-ripe-fertile-age-1897512

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/14/why-arent-republicans-thrilled-by-the-fall-in-teen-pregnancies

        The people funding & enabling AI want the wife beating, marital murder/suicide, & child abuse.

        Male supremacy is demonstrated through a hierarchy that preserves impunity, entitlement, & unearned privilege.
        https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/3/13/2373061/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-61/

        https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/24/2365268/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-60/

        https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/3/2361277/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-59/

        Support the GOP & get a DOJ investigation closed.
        https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/03/southern-baptist-doj-investigation-abuse-ends/

        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-responds-domestic-abuse-allegations-max-miller-divorce-rcna345318

        https://newrepublic.com/post/210178/maga-congressman-miller-accused-beat-ex-wife

        https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/04/23/us-senate-candidate-royce-white-is-under-order-to-avoid-ex-wife-their-son-over-threats

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        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

          RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

          I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

          To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

          Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

          The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

          Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

          Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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          #40

          @neurovagrant I don’t know how much 911 operators get paid, but it’s not enough.

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            @neurovagrant

            https://www.newsweek.com/jess-edwards-teen-child-marriage-opposed-republican-ripe-fertile-age-1897512

            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/14/why-arent-republicans-thrilled-by-the-fall-in-teen-pregnancies

            The people funding & enabling AI want the wife beating, marital murder/suicide, & child abuse.

            Male supremacy is demonstrated through a hierarchy that preserves impunity, entitlement, & unearned privilege.
            https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/3/13/2373061/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-61/

            https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/24/2365268/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-60/

            https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/3/2361277/community/republican-sexual-predators-abusers-and-enablers-pt-59/

            Support the GOP & get a DOJ investigation closed.
            https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/03/southern-baptist-doj-investigation-abuse-ends/

            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-responds-domestic-abuse-allegations-max-miller-divorce-rcna345318

            https://newrepublic.com/post/210178/maga-congressman-miller-accused-beat-ex-wife

            https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/04/23/us-senate-candidate-royce-white-is-under-order-to-avoid-ex-wife-their-son-over-threats

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            #41

            @neurovagrant @Npars01

            Child abuse is a polite way of saying these people are pedophile child rapists.

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            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

              RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

              I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

              To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

              Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

              The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

              Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

              Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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              #42

              @neurovagrant I definitely agree with the point you are making.

              Emergency service call dispatchers definitely should not be replaced by AI tech, the human presence is still absolutely essential.

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

                Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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                #43

                @neurovagrant
                Sounds like an exceptionally stupid idea to get the machine that can't even properly take drive-thru food orders right to manage emergency calls.

                There's already enough complexity with emergency services. Just getting the right people (fire, ambulance, police) to a particular location with the proper situational information quickly is enough of a challenge.

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                • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                  @neurovagrant @Npars01

                  Child abuse is a polite way of saying these people are pedophile child rapists.

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                  #44

                  @FranceskaMann @neurovagrant

                  They definitely support a culture of rape & child abuse, possibly because their own childhoods said violence & abuse was "normal" & saw it as a way to assert identity in a group.

                  https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-art-flourishing/202104/is-there-link-between-white-supremacy-and-childhood-trauma/amp

                  https://www.childrenssociety.org.uk/what-we-do/blogs/protecting-children-from-misogyny-manosphere

                  https://www.mediamatters.org/nick-fuentes/history-america-first-streamer-nick-fuentes-extreme-misogyny

                  https://www.equimundo.org/making-the-connections-harmful-masculine-norms-and-child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation/

                  https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/quiet-collapse-southern-baptist-convention/

                  The mistreatment of "their inferiors" is a hallmark characteristic of Christian nationalism, white supremacy, & male privilege.

                  https://imprintnews.org/opinion/white-privilege-in-child-welfare-what-racism-looks-like/44662

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                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                    RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                    I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                    To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                    Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                    The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                    Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                    Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

                    crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #45

                    @neurovagrant The really cool thing here is that before I get to hear how an AI is going to be the last thing I hear when I dial 911 during my heart attack, I get to learn that if I'd made it even a decade ago it would have been recorded and sold to a foreign whoever so they could do whatever the fuck they want with my last words. "My" government already allowed, participated, and profited by this shit.

                    Every day I learn more and more that I'm just fucking food and so is everyone I care about.

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                    • lupus_blackfur@mastodon.worldL lupus_blackfur@mastodon.world

                      @neurovagrant
                      @alex

                      Easy Peasy...

                      The so-called "AI" will simply dispatch SWAT any time a pizza is ordered on a 911 call...

                      Why is this difficult??

                      FFS.

                      🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤡🫏🖕🖕💩💩

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                      #46

                      @lupus_blackfur @neurovagrant @alex Someone willing to sully themselves should just go ask AI what it is going to do about that since it's the one that will be coding the solution.

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                      • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                        @neurovagrant The really cool thing here is that before I get to hear how an AI is going to be the last thing I hear when I dial 911 during my heart attack, I get to learn that if I'd made it even a decade ago it would have been recorded and sold to a foreign whoever so they could do whatever the fuck they want with my last words. "My" government already allowed, participated, and profited by this shit.

                        Every day I learn more and more that I'm just fucking food and so is everyone I care about.

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                        #47

                        @neurovagrant Oh. Two years. That's not fun but doesn't leave me feeling like I've been just stupid as fuck and blind my whole life.

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                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                          I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

                          Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

                          solitha@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #48

                          @neurovagrant Holy shit. This was my career and I cannot even.

                          I remember calls that went both ways. Ones where tone of voice and evasive answers sent up red flags. Another where someone called yelling they'd been robbed, and it was the fact they sounded utterly pissed that clued me off (it was a civil dispute with a cab driver, not an emergency).

                          How the hell would an AI understand when someone talking suddenly starts screaming incoherently?

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                          • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                            @neurovagrant Oh. Two years. That's not fun but doesn't leave me feeling like I've been just stupid as fuck and blind my whole life.

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                            #49

                            @neurovagrant Two years ago puts this in Biden admin. Further, Seattle is blue as fuck even if some of the surrounding area just ain't.

                            So I'm curious as hell how this has been spaghettied into legality. Here's part of it:

                            https://www.insideclassactions.com/2026/03/03/use-of-ai-call-center-without-consent-not-a-federal-wiretap-violation-court-holds/

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                            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                              RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                              I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                              To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                              Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                              The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                              Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                              Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

                              jhlyon@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #50

                              @neurovagrant ai can be trained to do just that, perhaps even better than a human?

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                              • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                                @neurovagrant The really cool thing here is that before I get to hear how an AI is going to be the last thing I hear when I dial 911 during my heart attack, I get to learn that if I'd made it even a decade ago it would have been recorded and sold to a foreign whoever so they could do whatever the fuck they want with my last words. "My" government already allowed, participated, and profited by this shit.

                                Every day I learn more and more that I'm just fucking food and so is everyone I care about.

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                                #51

                                @neurovagrant I misheard. I thought they said the AI was being trained on the calls. I found other sources that said it was trained on audio streams but not that they were calls so I listened again.

                                It's also not necessarily that AI will be speaking but that it's the thing making the decision if I need help or not. I'll thankfully hear a human voice that doesn't give any shits and is just doing what the computer says. 😛

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                                • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

                                  @neurovagrant @mttaggart I called non emergency 911 to report a cow loose in a residential area a few weeks back and was met with a voice chatbot

                                  it didn’t understand me when trying to explain about the cow, so i hung up

                                  a human dispatcher called me back 10 mins later

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                                  #52

                                  @SecureOwl @neurovagrant @mttaggart clearly on the horns of a dilemma…

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                                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                    RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                                    I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                                    To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                                    Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                                    The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                                    Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                                    Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                                    #53

                                    @neurovagrant somewhere I have the transcript of the 911 call I made the time I was hiding in the bathroom with the kids while my ex tried to kick in the doors between him and us

                                    it took the officers 9 minutes to get there

                                    I'm glad there was a human being on the other end of that line

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                                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                      RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                                      I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                                      To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                                      Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                                      The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                                      Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                                      Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #54

                                      @neurovagrant

                                      Yeah, this is some scary crap. If someone is badly hurt and losing consciousness, or they're whispering because it's an active shooter situation and they can't speak clearly... what then? There are too many human variables to count that make it difficult to discern what's happening with human to human interaction (though good dispatchers try their damnedest for sure), how the hell is AI gonna manage?

                                      Scary fucking times we're living in. As Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park, "God help us, we're in the hands of engineers."

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                                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                        I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

                                        Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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                                        #55

                                        @neurovagrant If someone I loved died because I got AI when I called 911, I don't think I'd be considered responsible for my actions in a court of law. Holy shit.

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                                        • jhlyon@mastodon.socialJ jhlyon@mastodon.social

                                          @neurovagrant ai can be trained to do just that, perhaps even better than a human?

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                                          #56

                                          @jhlyon @neurovagrant Holy fuck you are an idiot.

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