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  3. Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    https://lobste.rs/s/csxfc6/cloudflare_claimed_they_implemented#c_gychiy

    Quoting from one of my chat rooms:

    > Distributed protocols get extra complex once cryptography and security get in the mix and without a domain expert

    authentication isn't "extra complex", you literally removed signature checking. and hashes. And fucking authentication.

    > ensure this handles the myriad of edge cases that regularly plague Matrix implementations

    YOU REMOVED. AUTHENTICATION. THIS ISN'T SOME WEIRD EDGE CASE WITH STATE RESETS. YOU REMOVED AUTHENTICATION AND VALIDATION.

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    #118

    @JadedBlueEyes

    Are they upload the code to public repo AS IS?

    If so, we are in a deep shit.
    If not, maybe they publish the open-source boilerplate, when the auth was proprietary

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    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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      #119

      @JadedBlueEyes
      It's just like that time I implemented Matrix in ActivityPub!

      https://hachyderm.io/@cambria/115970344802897969

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      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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        #120

        @JadedBlueEyes Slop like this is so disrespectful to the time of everyone who reads the blog post. Jerks who are too lazy to do their job properly and expect others to fix their careless mistakes existed before LLMs but I swear this technology is like rocket fuel for these people.

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        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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          #121

          @JadedBlueEyes umm is the internet dying already? i thought we had time

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          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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            #122

            @JadedBlueEyes >Matrix is the gold standard for decentralized, end-to-end encrypted communication.

            they lost me on the first line, lol

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            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

              Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

              https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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              #123

              @JadedBlueEyes they lost me already with "serverless" and "post-quantum" and when I saw "cloudflare" I completly turned away 😉

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              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                Archive link for posterity:

                https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                #124

                @JadedBlueEyes lol

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                • siguza@infosec.spaceS siguza@infosec.space

                  @GossiTheDog @JadedBlueEyes fucking OUCH

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                  #125

                  @siguza @GossiTheDog @JadedBlueEyes I’m holding out for serverless CloudFlare Gas Town.

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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                    #126

                    @JadedBlueEyes not to pile on matrix, but "Matrix is the gold standard for decentralized, end-to-end encrypted communication" also seems bold. I have never had a good experience using matrix, nor heard anyone describing one 😅

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                    • danvolchek@mastodon.socialD danvolchek@mastodon.social

                      @JadedBlueEyes not to pile on matrix, but "Matrix is the gold standard for decentralized, end-to-end encrypted communication" also seems bold. I have never had a good experience using matrix, nor heard anyone describing one 😅

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                      #127

                      @JadedBlueEyes to be very fair, I tried it a few times and do not interact with people who use it, so my sample size and experience is low. I would love if it overcame usability issues and replaced discord!!!

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                      • danvolchek@mastodon.socialD danvolchek@mastodon.social

                        @JadedBlueEyes not to pile on matrix, but "Matrix is the gold standard for decentralized, end-to-end encrypted communication" also seems bold. I have never had a good experience using matrix, nor heard anyone describing one 😅

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                        #128

                        @danvolchek @JadedBlueEyes

                        True (it's also my experience) but it’s still a huge deal that the German and French militaries are actually putting their weight behind Matrix...

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                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                          #129

                          @JadedBlueEyes this whole thing is so bad. The title makes it seem like they updated the matrix protocol to use post-quantum cryptography, but all they did was toggle a switch for cloudflare TLS connections

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                          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                            #130

                            @JadedBlueEyes We published a response on the Matrix side at https://matrix.org/blog/2026/01/28/matrix-on-cloudflare-workers/

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                            • silo_bear@mastodon.socialS silo_bear@mastodon.social

                              @JadedBlueEyes

                              Holy crap. I would not expect this from an industry giant (Though I guess I should.)

                              That certainly shatters my trust in cloudflare a bit. #devops #programming #networking

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                              #131

                              @silo_bear @JadedBlueEyes

                              Seeing two basically back-to-back Cloudfare outages is a span of a month last year, both of which had a really good technical blog posts - that boiled down to being a minor programmer error, got me suspicious that LLMs are involved.

                              I mean, I remember like 1 other CF outage before that, and two major outages in a month?

                              This kind of explains it. It's what happens when you turn to LLMs for your development (see i.e recent Windows bugs).

                              Tech will suck so much now 😞

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                              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                #132

                                @JadedBlueEyes @joeress if you haven't seen this yet, I could see you discussing it on one or more of your podcasts

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                                • matrix@mastodon.matrix.orgM matrix@mastodon.matrix.org

                                  @JadedBlueEyes We published a response on the Matrix side at https://matrix.org/blog/2026/01/28/matrix-on-cloudflare-workers/

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                                  #133

                                  @matrix @JadedBlueEyes I do understand that matrix.org should really not pile on and at least maintain a good relationship with cloudflare, but this blogpost seems a bit too starry-eyed about cloudflare building a shitty excuse for a matrix server and having the audacity of calling their crap a "serverless" matrix server.

                                  Also, like mentioned elsewhere in this thread: even if cf built something halfway decent, that really just gives them a position where they can vendorlock anyone who uses it.

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                                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                    #134

                                    @JadedBlueEyes slopflare

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                                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                      #135

                                      @JadedBlueEyes I love how it uses post-quantum encryption to not authorize the requests

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