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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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    #27

    @Daojoan important is quality not quantity

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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      #28

      @Daojoan
      This is so true... Well said

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      • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29

        @benroyce
        This is a bad attempt of a joke.

        Not only it's the bad kind of cringe, it's now making me have a cascade response because of my AuADHD.

        And now I am very angry and down, because I have to relive some shit in a fucking dark period of my life.

        @arratoon @Daojoan

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        • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

          @benroyce
          This is a bad attempt of a joke.

          Not only it's the bad kind of cringe, it's now making me have a cascade response because of my AuADHD.

          And now I am very angry and down, because I have to relive some shit in a fucking dark period of my life.

          @arratoon @Daojoan

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          #30

          @dzwiedziu @arratoon @Daojoan

          alright sorry, i'll delete it

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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            #31

            @Daojoan It was common practice in past centuries, amongst the learned, to read portions of books piecemeal. They would also mark the books up and/or write about them in commonplace books.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

              ewen@social.ewenbell.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32
              @Daojoan

              100% and thanks for the reminder.
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              • jaypeach53@calckeymusic.socialJ jaypeach53@calckeymusic.social

                @Daojoan@mastodon.social Nice of you to force your convictions onto others. I read for pleasure and knowledge. If I read a lot, it’s my business, not yours.
                No TV no movies. To each their own.

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                #33

                @jaypeach53 There are entire swaths of the interned devoted to competitive book reading. It's crazy stuff.

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                • nicovel0@mastodon.socialN nicovel0@mastodon.social

                  @Daojoan you can even stop reading a book you don’t enjoy, or read a book you like several times.
                  Mad I know.

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                  #34

                  @Nicovel0 @Daojoan

                  cue Daniel Pennac's “the rights of the reader”

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                  • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                    @arratoon
                    Yeah, that is even quoted on the action's page, yet I was looking for a primary source to verify.

                    And to expand this is troublesome advice. Books can be in storage or electronic or audio. You can read magazines, zines, long-form articles, and still be a decent person.

                    Because often such thinking is intellectual snobbery, as books are often expensive and require time.

                    @Daojoan

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                    #35

                    @dzwiedziu @arratoon @Daojoan 30 years ago, if someone was a reader there would be no hiding it. All books were paper, and even if some were stored there would always be books at hand.

                    Now this clue is no longer available. Instead, you would actually have to *talk* to someone to find this out. I knew, how inconvenient!

                    Note that I’m not saying someone that isn’t a reader isn’t worth knowing, that would indeed be snobbery. But it is a useful data point.

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                    • provuejim@techhub.socialP provuejim@techhub.social

                      @dzwiedziu @arratoon @Daojoan 30 years ago, if someone was a reader there would be no hiding it. All books were paper, and even if some were stored there would always be books at hand.

                      Now this clue is no longer available. Instead, you would actually have to *talk* to someone to find this out. I knew, how inconvenient!

                      Note that I’m not saying someone that isn’t a reader isn’t worth knowing, that would indeed be snobbery. But it is a useful data point.

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                      #36

                      @provuejim
                      Yes, that's a good observation.

                      And if instead of this coming naturally from a conversation, they are telling you not prompted and how, that will be another nice data point.

                      @arratoon @Daojoan

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                        #37

                        @FreakyFwoof @Daojoan I read a lot, but I tell people they don't have to read as much as I do. I spend most of my free time reading. I encourage people to just read!

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                          #38

                          @Daojoan After I exported my ebooks from Kindle and on to a regular ePub reader, all the gamification bullshit went away. That is really so much better.

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                            #39

                            @Daojoan Are people competitively reading now!? First it was yoga and now this. I blame those childhood readathons.

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                              #40

                              @Daojoan another facet: you don't need to finish a book at all. if you aren't having fun or valuable thoughts, don't feel safe with the topic, need a break from it, and so on: you can put a book aside and revisit it in a different frame of reference or never

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                                #41
                                I've long stopped bothering much with compulsion to finish a book I've started. Also, I excel at procrastinating by not posting to that fedi book site I made an account on to document how I not finish reading.
                                Otoh it makes me proud when I keep at a specific book and get myself over that lengthy part on p. 320-350 of 700 because, well, growing to like the $whateverDetail there often does make the book and "experience" better.
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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                  #42

                                  @Daojoan I am very late in the game joining social media. Often people would ask me how I could stay informed. I did not understand the question. I read books (fiction and various nonfiction), read articles (not only the headlines), listen to a variety of public radio broadcasts and podcasts. I was also aware of most of the silly memes. I really appreciated your comment about the value of reading books.

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                    #43

                                    @Daojoan Now with AI we all can pretend like we read a book every day.

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                      #44

                                      @Daojoan true though my local library literally encouraged competitive reading over the summer holidays in the 90s 😁

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                        #45

                                        @Daojoan it reminds me of churches convincing people to read the entire Bible every year but without any support. Then people read it and don't think about it. If they thought about what they read you would have way more people complaining about its weird parts!

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                          #46

                                          @Daojoan hmm wonder if this is one of the factors in reading comprehension?

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