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  3. I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

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  • jorgaborg@brain.worm.pinkJ jorgaborg@brain.worm.pink

    @benroyce @jaystephens i hope it’s obvious that im joking there. i certainly didnt stand by while the country elected a pants-shitting orange moron

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    #14

    @jorgaborg @jaystephens

    no problem. i am punch drunk from all the trolls so it's hard for me to tell

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @jawarajabbi

      i see european accounts saying the vote in the USA is now corrupted

      europeans also like to tell americans to vote third party

      third party in an FPTP voting system divides the left and hands MAGA a win

      and the vote is controlled by the states. maybe some red states will corrupt the vote but they are already red states

      europeans are entitled to speak on american politics

      but europeans really need to educate themselves before they say something which only harms their own concerns

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      #15

      @benroyce stay strong! Germany did not and anyone knows how horrible that ended.
      Hitler was the result of being weak and colaborative. May all nazis burn in hell.

      @jawarajabbi

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

        #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

        Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

        Besides, elections are controlled by the states

        On that note (they won't succeed):

        "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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        #16

        @benroyce - other truly democratic countries have arms-length federal body that runs federal elections. They provide the mechanisms / training for the election staff, they set the borders for each riding (based on giving each one approximately the same number of voters - not by skin colour or known political say) - and it’s not up to the country’s leader to direct his party to take over the election process.
        That’s more along the lines of Russia or Belarus. Trump’s chums.

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        • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

          @benroyce - other truly democratic countries have arms-length federal body that runs federal elections. They provide the mechanisms / training for the election staff, they set the borders for each riding (based on giving each one approximately the same number of voters - not by skin colour or known political say) - and it’s not up to the country’s leader to direct his party to take over the election process.
          That’s more along the lines of Russia or Belarus. Trump’s chums.

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          #17

          @bazcook

          and those systems work

          the usa's current problems are partly because our voting system is so antiquated. which other countries have vastly improved upon and are thus more resilient to the MAGA-like influences

          but one benefit of our ancient crappy system is that it is so byzantine and locally controlled. therefore, harder for the orange turd to manipulate

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

            #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

            Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

            Besides, elections are controlled by the states

            On that note (they won't succeed):

            "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

            https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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            #18

            @benroyce And write it in COBOL to run on IBM 360 systems in keeping with the IRS system.

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            • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

              @benroyce And write it in COBOL to run on IBM 360 systems in keeping with the IRS system.

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              #19

              @RegGuy 😂

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                On that note (they won't succeed):

                "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                #20

                @benroyce I keep telling people this is the real reason he keeps saying it. If everyone gives up hope then it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

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                • wry@mstdn.socialW wry@mstdn.social

                  @benroyce I keep telling people this is the real reason he keeps saying it. If everyone gives up hope then it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

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                  #21

                  @wry

                  Unfortunately there's enough mindlessly cynical cowardly spineless Americans out there that #prematureCapitulation is a real effect. These losers (literally, not an empty insult) just give up merely because malice exists in the world. In some ways they are worse than #MAGA. You can fIght MAGA. What can you do with empty inert lumps ready to just submit? #Cynicism is acceptance

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                    #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                    Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                    Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                    On that note (they won't succeed):

                    "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                    #22

                    @benroyce
                    There is no one as tedious and annoying as the "both sides suck" "you're just voting for the lesser of two evils" edgelords

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                    • pamelabarroway@mstdn.socialP pamelabarroway@mstdn.social

                      @benroyce 🎯 ... the doomsayers make me want to scream.

                      They 💯 are going to make voting more difficult. Our job is to vote No. Matter. What.

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                      #23

                      @PamelaBarroway @benroyce
                      Amen sister ‼️

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        I've been shushing people who say there won't be free #elections in the #USA anymore

                        #Cynicism leads to #prematureCapitulation: "if the #vote is corrupt, why vote"

                        Americans are lazy about voting as it is. Weak whiny "the sky is falling!" statements just because malicious intent exists is enough to make some give up

                        Besides, elections are controlled by the states

                        On that note (they won't succeed):

                        "#Trump urges #Republicans to 'take over' and 'nationalize' voting"

                        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-urges-republicans-nationalize-voting/story?id=129793658

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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #24

                        @benroyce This ^ , this makes me so weary, tired (& somewhat angry) that I hear people saying things like this… & *some* are definitely not naive & are very learned people (who are much older than me & have had a lot more experiences) But they don’t seem to understand, well, this ^!
                        I keep fighting them back when they say things like this. Sometimes it just comes down to “this is not the country I’m fighting for” & I just tell them that they are going to make it worse by talking like that .

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @wry

                          Unfortunately there's enough mindlessly cynical cowardly spineless Americans out there that #prematureCapitulation is a real effect. These losers (literally, not an empty insult) just give up merely because malice exists in the world. In some ways they are worse than #MAGA. You can fIght MAGA. What can you do with empty inert lumps ready to just submit? #Cynicism is acceptance

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                          #25

                          @benroyce @wry sheeple

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                          • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce This ^ , this makes me so weary, tired (& somewhat angry) that I hear people saying things like this… & *some* are definitely not naive & are very learned people (who are much older than me & have had a lot more experiences) But they don’t seem to understand, well, this ^!
                            I keep fighting them back when they say things like this. Sometimes it just comes down to “this is not the country I’m fighting for” & I just tell them that they are going to make it worse by talking like that .

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                            #26

                            @benroyce regardless how I have been “mistaken” about the core values of this country… it still has to be said that there are enough of us who believe that this is the “land of the free and the home of the brave” for ANYONE who calls this country their home… and that’s the country that I want to see “reborn” as it were… and none of this white-supremacy Nazi tolerance. 😾✊🗽

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @wry

                              Unfortunately there's enough mindlessly cynical cowardly spineless Americans out there that #prematureCapitulation is a real effect. These losers (literally, not an empty insult) just give up merely because malice exists in the world. In some ways they are worse than #MAGA. You can fIght MAGA. What can you do with empty inert lumps ready to just submit? #Cynicism is acceptance

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                              #27

                              @benroyce I have more hope than this. It's why I haven't stopped talking to people about it.

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                              • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce This ^ , this makes me so weary, tired (& somewhat angry) that I hear people saying things like this… & *some* are definitely not naive & are very learned people (who are much older than me & have had a lot more experiences) But they don’t seem to understand, well, this ^!
                                I keep fighting them back when they say things like this. Sometimes it just comes down to “this is not the country I’m fighting for” & I just tell them that they are going to make it worse by talking like that .

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                                #28

                                @em_and_future_cats

                                This whole era has taught me so many on the right are ignorant bigots. Which you could say I should have known and I agree but I did expect more infighting and not such vast meek complicit silence from so called "patriotic conservatives" against obvious fascism

                                But also much more sadly many on the left are impotent spineless whiners who won't fight

                                Vote. Protest

                                Wringing your hands and paralyzed in mindless cynicism and toxic idealism is just pure loser

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                                • wry@mstdn.socialW wry@mstdn.social

                                  @benroyce I have more hope than this. It's why I haven't stopped talking to people about it.

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                                  #29

                                  @wry

                                  Thank you. I'm a hothead and a loud mouth and I just yell at them. But I admit your approach is more constructive

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @wry

                                    Thank you. I'm a hothead and a loud mouth and I just yell at them. But I admit your approach is more constructive

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                                    #30

                                    @benroyce Hotheads have their place too. It will take all of us to survive this mess.

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                                    • wry@mstdn.socialW wry@mstdn.social

                                      @benroyce Hotheads have their place too. It will take all of us to survive this mess.

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                                      #31

                                      @wry

                                      The good cop bad cop routine

                                      We'll make it work

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @wry

                                        The good cop bad cop routine

                                        We'll make it work

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                                        #32

                                        @benroyce 😆

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                                        • em_and_future_cats@mastodon.socialE em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce regardless how I have been “mistaken” about the core values of this country… it still has to be said that there are enough of us who believe that this is the “land of the free and the home of the brave” for ANYONE who calls this country their home… and that’s the country that I want to see “reborn” as it were… and none of this white-supremacy Nazi tolerance. 😾✊🗽

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                                          #33

                                          @em_and_future_cats

                                          💪

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