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  • sahak@xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aqS sahak@xn--69aa8bzb.xn--y9a3aq

    @sundogplanets Starlink is going to launch a satellite cell phone service, also most airlines are switching to Starlink internet service, so I think it is natural that they will need a lot more satellites. Starship is going to be able to deliver them into orbit.

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    #137

    @sahak do you know what happens when there's too many satellites in orbit? Short answer: much fewer satellites in orbit. Gewgle Kessler Syndrome @sundogplanets

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    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

      @sundogplanets

      If you understand anything about the giant CF of data centers right now this is just the stupidest idea ever.

      First, the lifespan of these chips runs on the order of 18 months before they are considered obsolete and the chips fry very quickly so there is a very high failure rate.

      Also, the data centers power is determined by the networking of all the components in the data center.

      Ask yourself if RF communication broadcast between satellites can work like wires

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      #138

      @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Hint: Ask yourself why datacenters use massive bundles of wired or fiber connections internally rather than WiFi.

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      • ppulfer@mastodon.ieP ppulfer@mastodon.ie

        @sundogplanets, why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

        For example, datacenters are being constructed with massive discounts by councils/municipals and in turn, water and electricity bill of residential area gets higher to pay that offset of costs.

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        #139

        @ppulfer #cough Kessler Syndrome @sundogplanets

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        • zgryphon@gweep.catZ zgryphon@gweep.cat

          @sundogplanets ... what the fuck does that even mean? I know I could search for it, but I'm not sure I want that in my search history.

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          #140

          @zgryphon @sundogplanets

          The radio astronomer Nikolai Kardashev developed a scale describing hypothetical aliens by the amount of energy they used as a guide for what SETI searches could and could not find.

          A "Kardashev II" level would involve using the entire energy output of the Sun by dismantling planets and turning them into solar panels.

          Which has no resemblance to this particular bit of vaporware.

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            #141

            @CStamp @sundogplanets They don't. Anyone can shoot anything into space if they can afford it. No one governs space. What he needs is permission to use the air waves. The section is highlighted in the attached image.

            I am not defending him (I think he is a giant child molesting, aspie supremacist, queef) I just thought that in this current era of disinfo someone should step in an clear up things.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

              Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

              https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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              #142

              @sundogplanets this is by far the stupidest thing I've heard in this dystopian mess Elon and friends are plunging us in.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                #143

                @sundogplanets
                holy fuck. * groan *

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                • fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.socialF fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.social

                  @CStamp @sundogplanets They don't. Anyone can shoot anything into space if they can afford it. No one governs space. What he needs is permission to use the air waves. The section is highlighted in the attached image.

                  I am not defending him (I think he is a giant child molesting, aspie supremacist, queef) I just thought that in this current era of disinfo someone should step in an clear up things.

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                  #144

                  @fiend_unpleasant @sundogplanets that doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. They are possibly damaging our atmosphere, they ARE ruining our night sky, they are increasing risk of damage to people when they fall out of the sky, they are risking damage to flights beyond our atmosphere…

                  That one government has the right to speak for all of us is crap.

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                    #145

                    @Pepijn
                    Which step exactly is the one where #magicHappens?

                    @sundogplanets

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                    • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                      @sundogplanets I suggest we all become amateur radio astronomers but instead of receiving we transmit. We agree on a satellite to fry every day until starlink costs too much to keep running.

                      Obviously we can't do this. Not everyone can afford a radio transmission setup & a satellite antenna, & the FCC in the USA & the equivalents in other countries would be very mad, but I wish we could do this.

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                      #146

                      @jackemled @sundogplanets Oh we CAN do this and yes the FCC in the USA & the equivalents in other countries would be VERY mad.

                      I'm not far enough in my ham radio journey to help much in the procurement of Ka band equipment but I figure with enough hours of watching https://www.youtube.com/@saveitforparts someone should be able to figure out how to get the good stuff cheap.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                        https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                        #147

                        @sundogplanets

                        I don't know if that can be profitable, they have to convince a lot of suckers to pay a premium price for an inferior non-wired internet connection. Each node is deorbited every 5 years or so, so that's 200,000 nodes being turned into a dumpster fire and crashing back to earth each year. say each costs $1,000, then it's a billion in overhead they throw away just to repopulate the mesh hardware every 5 years, ignoring the even more critical launch, operations, and insurance costs, I suspect hardware costs are well over $1,000 per node, but I can't find any real numbers to base this on.

                        The bigger problem though is why TF are phone companies even entertaining the idea of participating in the creation of a new competitor that could easily turn into a monopoly and crush them?

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                          https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                          #148

                          @sundogplanets
                          My only thought: externalities

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                            #149

                            @Kiloku @sundogplanets The Kardashev scale is meaningless drivel. It's just some dude making shit up in the 1960s to get government funding from the Soviets. Anyone who references the scale like it's meaningful, ESPECIALLY in an official filing, is not a serious person.

                            All of these tech idiots need to be bullied aggressively until they go away. We need to locate that idiot from Pretoria's childhood bullies and get some historical data to kick things off.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                              Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                              https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                              #150

                              @sundogplanets I kind of think the project is cool as fuck and makes a ton of sense. Fuck that guy obviously

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                                #151

                                @sundogplanets 30x more satellites than objects that we are currently tracking in orbit? (Including debris from stuff that blew or was blown up)

                                One company?

                                Well that's fucking ridiculous.

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                                • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                  @fiend_unpleasant @sundogplanets that doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. They are possibly damaging our atmosphere, they ARE ruining our night sky, they are increasing risk of damage to people when they fall out of the sky, they are risking damage to flights beyond our atmosphere…

                                  That one government has the right to speak for all of us is crap.

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                                  #152

                                  @CStamp @sundogplanets I'm sorry I thought calling Elon Musk a giant child molesting, aspie supremacist, queef would have conveyed that I think he is wrong to do this.

                                  It's important to be factual when we are trying to stop shit heads from doing shit head things so they can't argue back.

                                  How do you think they could damage the atmosphere? And again the US government has jurisdiction over the Ka band in the US, not space. Anyone could decide they hate the new satellites and shoot them down.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                    THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                    #153

                                    @sundogplanets WHAT on earth are they going on about, they are like 12 year old boys

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                      https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                                      #154

                                      @sundogplanets At this point I'm quite sure they're deliberately trying to cause a Kessler syndrome, so we could never escape the hell billionaires are going to lay upon us.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                        https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                                        #155

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Do you see the red laser making a giant letter X?

                                        This is a frame of video from "Attack on Skynet base ⧹ T800 Arrival | Terminator Genisys".

                                        You're only "dead" if you reject God's offer of eternal life through the Lord Jesus Christ, who died on a cross. Follow Him and live.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                          https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                                          #156
                                          @sundogplanets oh this surely won't render the planet's orbit unusable for generations, no way.

                                          But also, are you surprised one bit? This is the company that sent a car in space for the lolz
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