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"On the acceptance of GenAI"https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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  • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

    @tante

    AI in the modern age is not going away. You shouldn't be shamed for using it, and at this point you should expect it.

    Even when the bubble goes pop we are still going to have AI in some form. AI is a useful tool for many people, and it's great when you self host it.

    Also, most things AI "steals" isn't really stealing if it's free and public on the internet.

    Only thing I really can agree with is environment impacts. At this point though we muck up the environment so much with plastics, overusage of gas, mass deforestation, etc that I don't know how big of an impact that really has. Ideally we would use green forms of energy for everything, and new tech innovation would reduce the absurd amounts of power required to run these supercomputers. Hopefully the ARM architecture is that light in the dark.

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    #47

    @Synthyx@vivaldi.net @tante@tldr.nettime.org

    Also, most things AI “steals” isn’t really stealing if it’s free and public on the internet.

    That’s not even remotely how copyright works

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    • smilingdemon@mastodon.artS smilingdemon@mastodon.art

      @tante good god the replies. A lot of people holding their hands tightly over their eyes.

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      #48

      @smilingdemon yeah. I mean sure, you can ignore a lot of facts to keep doing what you are already doing but don't try to claim your being ethical or anything.

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      • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

        @crazyeddie @tante GenAI as in Generative AI, not Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).

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        #49

        @orange_lux both are arbitrary marketing terms

        @crazyeddie @tante

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        • 3fingers@blorbo.social3 3fingers@blorbo.social

          @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante no. copyright law is bullshit. the problem is power. like in every situation. poor people stealing from the rich: cool. rich people stealing from the poor: fucked.

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          #50

          @3Fingers @ai6yr @tante I definitely got that vibe already, that many on Mastodon, and to a lesser extent Bluesky, approach AI as a class issue.

          Seems strange, both because it's what AI has been building towards for the last 70 years. No surprises here that the first command would be "ok, read everything."

          But also because Moore's law applies. All of this will be local and distributed over time.

          We're actually quite lucky that there are no binding patents or copyrights on AI.

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          • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

            @3Fingers @ai6yr @tante I definitely got that vibe already, that many on Mastodon, and to a lesser extent Bluesky, approach AI as a class issue.

            Seems strange, both because it's what AI has been building towards for the last 70 years. No surprises here that the first command would be "ok, read everything."

            But also because Moore's law applies. All of this will be local and distributed over time.

            We're actually quite lucky that there are no binding patents or copyrights on AI.

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            #51

            @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante all technology benefits the rich over the poor. that's just an unavoidable universal fact. AI is currently destroying the world by empowering the U.S. military and various billionaire fascists who are oppressing all of us.

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            • jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.com

              @ai6yr @tante

              Honestly it was the "voluntary downsize" comment that got me.

              Nobody wants to follow my hot takes and brilliant insights? Clearly, then, Mastodon must be what's pushing them away.

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              #52

              @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante fwiw

              https://mas.to/@carnage4life/116351978261689682

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              • downey@floss.socialD downey@floss.social

                @orange_lux both are arbitrary marketing terms

                @crazyeddie @tante

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                #53

                @downey @crazyeddie @tante everything is an arbitrary marketing term

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                • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                  @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante fwiw

                  https://mas.to/@carnage4life/116351978261689682

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                  #54

                  @buckfiftyseven @jrconlin @tante Aww, poor AI influencer!

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                  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                    @buckfiftyseven @jrconlin @tante Aww, poor AI influencer!

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                    #55

                    @ai6yr @jrconlin @tante here's the thing, what if he's not?

                    What if he's a mainstream technology observer, and what if Mastodon is in the process of divorcing themselves from the mainstream?

                    That's where I'm putting my bet for what it's worth.

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      "On the acceptance of GenAI"
                      https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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                      #56

                      @tante [ ] I accept that the continuing scraping of the internet is a strain on service providers, even ones that don’t want to participate

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                        #57

                        @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante If Mastodon was in any kind of growth phase I think that might be a stronger argument.

                        But if the platform is shrinking at the same time as people are putting out purity requirements, maybe not.

                        The top post I replied to is obviously a purity test.

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                        • crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange

                          @Epic_Null @tante

                          And yes, that is a big issue with the SaaS token vendors. Claude, OpenAI, MS, and the rest do use whatever user data they can get. I am not arguing their horrific behavior.

                          I'm talking about locally running Qwen, or Deepseek, or other FLOSS models.

                          That local LLM running on my machine only sees and uses data I provide. And a control-c in the relevant console window kills the LLM.

                          What folks do not realize is this is #Leibniz's ultimate dream, of being able to do #calculus with words, sentences, and more. He tried to do single word-vectors, but even that had to wait for Word2Vec in 2012.

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                          #58

                          @Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante “local” models are as reliant on illegal data acquisition, because they depend on the larger mainstream models to reach any level of tolerable performance. Whether it’s for training, fine tuning, distillation, or another method, that dependency means anything that goes into the development of the nonlocal model is also a requirement for the development of the local versions.

                          Deepseek and Qwen are no exception.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            @crankylinuxuser FLOSS Models (which are only freeware) fulfill most of those boxes. Trained on stolen data, massaged by people in global majority countries, trained in environmentally harmful data centers, outsourcing skills to the freeware product a company dumped on me, using a tool that is imbued and trained for how big tech wants to see the world, and effort could have gone to something meaningful. So yeah nope.

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                            #59

                            @tante @crankylinuxuser
                            And what if i train my own model in my own computer powered by solar with my own data?

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                            • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                              @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante If Mastodon was in any kind of growth phase I think that might be a stronger argument.

                              But if the platform is shrinking at the same time as people are putting out purity requirements, maybe not.

                              The top post I replied to is obviously a purity test.

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                              #60

                              @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                              I know, right? How will Mastodon ever be profitable and return positive value for it's shareholders.

                              ( Sorry, I promise I'll stop laughing soon. )

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                              • jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.com

                                @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                                I know, right? How will Mastodon ever be profitable and return positive value for it's shareholders.

                                ( Sorry, I promise I'll stop laughing soon. )

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                                #61

                                @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante I understand that Mastodon is a public effort, and I have support it in a variety of ways. I've been doing patreon for 2-3 sites I didn't even use, even as I was hiring my own server separately.

                                But even if we think it's a public effort, do we want it to be a declining one? Perhaps only for right-thinking people?

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                                • jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.com

                                  @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                                  I know, right? How will Mastodon ever be profitable and return positive value for it's shareholders.

                                  ( Sorry, I promise I'll stop laughing soon. )

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                                  #62

                                  @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                                  Look, I'll acknowledge that the people who insist on pushing their opinions onto people who don't want them are sad.
                                  I'll also say that Mastodon has a long, deep HOA inspired history. Both things can be very true.

                                  It's almost as if it's made of people, who have their own opinions and ideas, who are gathered together, but are allowed not to hear things they don't like and more of the things they do. People are like that. They do that sort of thing. It can be both positive and negative.

                                  That said, the fediverse is under no obligation to grow. It can exist just fine as the niche place a bunch of weirdos hang out and share cat pictures because the folk that like to do that are the ones footing the bills.

                                  If I'm not able to find my audience, that's not your problem. I wouldn't expect you to want to sit through a weird mix of cryptography, systems operational discussions and bad puns unless you enjoyed that sort of thing, and even then, I'd worry about you. I post here because it's an outlet. I'd do it even if I had zero followers. I also enjoy the fact that @tante and other folk post really interesting things, so I like discussing those topics with folk, but I also understand those folk have zero obligation to listen to me and always have the option to either mute or block me.

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                                  • jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.com

                                    @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                                    Look, I'll acknowledge that the people who insist on pushing their opinions onto people who don't want them are sad.
                                    I'll also say that Mastodon has a long, deep HOA inspired history. Both things can be very true.

                                    It's almost as if it's made of people, who have their own opinions and ideas, who are gathered together, but are allowed not to hear things they don't like and more of the things they do. People are like that. They do that sort of thing. It can be both positive and negative.

                                    That said, the fediverse is under no obligation to grow. It can exist just fine as the niche place a bunch of weirdos hang out and share cat pictures because the folk that like to do that are the ones footing the bills.

                                    If I'm not able to find my audience, that's not your problem. I wouldn't expect you to want to sit through a weird mix of cryptography, systems operational discussions and bad puns unless you enjoyed that sort of thing, and even then, I'd worry about you. I post here because it's an outlet. I'd do it even if I had zero followers. I also enjoy the fact that @tante and other folk post really interesting things, so I like discussing those topics with folk, but I also understand those folk have zero obligation to listen to me and always have the option to either mute or block me.

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                                    @jrconlin @buckfiftyseven @tante How will the Fediverse possibly grow if you're always posting cryptic things?!? You need to start posting about fashion, and makeup, and how popular you are, like a NORMAL influencer. CMON! CRYPTOGRAPHY FASHION TIPS! 🤪

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                                    • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                                      @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante I understand that Mastodon is a public effort, and I have support it in a variety of ways. I've been doing patreon for 2-3 sites I didn't even use, even as I was hiring my own server separately.

                                      But even if we think it's a public effort, do we want it to be a declining one? Perhaps only for right-thinking people?

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                                      #64

                                      @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                                      Yes. I would support this even if it was a declining effort. Because I would want to, and that's pretty much the same reason I would support any other effort. (there are a bunch of other "low value" projects I support, including a bunch of artists, musicians, programmers, and others. I'm weird that way. I like to make other folks happier.)

                                      I'm not "investing" in the platform. I'm not looking for any down market reward. It's a goofy project that a bunch of folk find either fun or useful.

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                                      • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                        @jrconlin @buckfiftyseven @tante How will the Fediverse possibly grow if you're always posting cryptic things?!? You need to start posting about fashion, and makeup, and how popular you are, like a NORMAL influencer. CMON! CRYPTOGRAPHY FASHION TIPS! 🤪

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                                        #65

                                        @ai6yr @buckfiftyseven @tante

                                        Sorry, I don't do things the normie's are talking about.

                                        ( Ok, seriously, that's actually kind of neat, and hopefully folk are doing testing about it, but I'm guessing she'd win anyway. )

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                                        • tywele@corteximplant.comT tywele@corteximplant.com

                                          @tante this implies that there are only US American AI companies. There are also EU AI companies which are arguably better.

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                                          #66

                                          @Tywele @tante There are no good gen-AI companies.

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