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  • no_kings_muc@mastodon.socialN no_kings_muc@mastodon.social

    In our Inbox:

    My 13-year-old son just said, “Mum, I think I have a good idea. The people in America protesting ICE should call themselves LAVA — Local And Very Angry. And lava melts ice. You should post that and see if it's a good idea"

    We’re about as far away from the United States as you can get, here in Perth, Western Australia. But I hope the people over there know that even a young boy on the other side of the world can see when something isn’t right.

    Emily, Perth

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    @NO_KINGS_muc I'm into it. 🌋🧊😎

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    • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

      @OliverNoble Looks like it might require at least 3:1, though I admit I'm not mathing well today. Still, I think we have those numbers, easily.

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      #16

      @wesdym
      But are we counting by weight or by volume? (And I think it's a Great slogan, it's a political statement, not high school physics coursework)
      @OliverNoble

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      • notsoloud@expressional.socialN notsoloud@expressional.social

        @wesdym
        But are we counting by weight or by volume? (And I think it's a Great slogan, it's a political statement, not high school physics coursework)
        @OliverNoble

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        #17

        @notsoloud Mass. If 1 kg lava vaporizes 1/3 kg of ice, then you need 3 kg lava to vaporize 1 kg ice.

        But that's doable. Decent people vastly out-number these assholes.

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        • no_kings_muc@mastodon.socialN no_kings_muc@mastodon.social

          In our Inbox:

          My 13-year-old son just said, “Mum, I think I have a good idea. The people in America protesting ICE should call themselves LAVA — Local And Very Angry. And lava melts ice. You should post that and see if it's a good idea"

          We’re about as far away from the United States as you can get, here in Perth, Western Australia. But I hope the people over there know that even a young boy on the other side of the world can see when something isn’t right.

          Emily, Perth

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          #18

          @NO_KINGS_muc @JugglingWithEggs What a clever lad he is!

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          • no_kings_muc@mastodon.socialN no_kings_muc@mastodon.social

            In our Inbox:

            My 13-year-old son just said, “Mum, I think I have a good idea. The people in America protesting ICE should call themselves LAVA — Local And Very Angry. And lava melts ice. You should post that and see if it's a good idea"

            We’re about as far away from the United States as you can get, here in Perth, Western Australia. But I hope the people over there know that even a young boy on the other side of the world can see when something isn’t right.

            Emily, Perth

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            #19

            @NO_KINGS_muc Please tell your son that it is an AMAZING idea, and thank you to both of you! ❤

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            • lazy@fedi.atL lazy@fedi.at

              @NO_KINGS_muc Sadly Lava has a specific heat capacity of <1kJ/kgK, while Ice has slightly above 2kJ/kgK, a specific melting energy of 334kJ/kg, Water then has a specific heat capacity of over 4kJ/kgK, and a specific vapourizing energy of about 2200kJ/kg.

              Since hot lava is not just going to melt ice on contact, but vapourize the water: Suppose you've got 1kg of 1200°C lava. This thus has an energy of less than 1500kJ.

              Suppose you've got ice at -20°C. Then for each kg of ice you'll need over 20*2+334=374kJ to melt. So theoretically we could melt 3–4kg of ice. But since until say 200°C the molten water is going to evaporate pretty fast this means for ~1000kJ you need to also heat the water to 100°C (420kJ/kg) and vapourize it (2.2MJ/kg).

              So all in all you'd have ~3MJ/kg of ice. So this 1000kJ can evaporate only ⅓kg of ice. The remainig 200kJ to 0°C will maybe rather melt the ice, but at this point you have only energy for melting a bit more than ½kg of ice. So all in all 1kg of 1200°C lava will only melt ~1kg of ice at -20°C.

              So don't think this would be overly effective.

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              #20

              @lazy
              @NO_KINGS_muc
              Good thing that there is like 100 times more LAVA than ICE.

              LAVA does not fight alone. Once the vulcano erupts, LAVA will reform the very land!

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                @lazy
                @NO_KINGS_muc
                Good thing that there is like 100 times more LAVA than ICE.

                LAVA does not fight alone. Once the vulcano erupts, LAVA will reform the very land!

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                #21

                @blackoverflow @NO_KINGS_muc Yes, and it might also prove that ICE is less cool than they think they are!

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                • no_kings_muc@mastodon.socialN no_kings_muc@mastodon.social

                  In our Inbox:

                  My 13-year-old son just said, “Mum, I think I have a good idea. The people in America protesting ICE should call themselves LAVA — Local And Very Angry. And lava melts ice. You should post that and see if it's a good idea"

                  We’re about as far away from the United States as you can get, here in Perth, Western Australia. But I hope the people over there know that even a young boy on the other side of the world can see when something isn’t right.

                  Emily, Perth

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                  #22

                  @NO_KINGS_muc @noondlyt Team #lava!

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                  • no_kings_muc@mastodon.socialN no_kings_muc@mastodon.social

                    In our Inbox:

                    My 13-year-old son just said, “Mum, I think I have a good idea. The people in America protesting ICE should call themselves LAVA — Local And Very Angry. And lava melts ice. You should post that and see if it's a good idea"

                    We’re about as far away from the United States as you can get, here in Perth, Western Australia. But I hope the people over there know that even a young boy on the other side of the world can see when something isn’t right.

                    Emily, Perth

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                    #23

                    @NO_KINGS_muc No shit bro that's actually a great idea

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                    • lazy@fedi.atL lazy@fedi.at

                      @NO_KINGS_muc Sadly Lava has a specific heat capacity of <1kJ/kgK, while Ice has slightly above 2kJ/kgK, a specific melting energy of 334kJ/kg, Water then has a specific heat capacity of over 4kJ/kgK, and a specific vapourizing energy of about 2200kJ/kg.

                      Since hot lava is not just going to melt ice on contact, but vapourize the water: Suppose you've got 1kg of 1200°C lava. This thus has an energy of less than 1500kJ.

                      Suppose you've got ice at -20°C. Then for each kg of ice you'll need over 20*2+334=374kJ to melt. So theoretically we could melt 3–4kg of ice. But since until say 200°C the molten water is going to evaporate pretty fast this means for ~1000kJ you need to also heat the water to 100°C (420kJ/kg) and vapourize it (2.2MJ/kg).

                      So all in all you'd have ~3MJ/kg of ice. So this 1000kJ can evaporate only ⅓kg of ice. The remainig 200kJ to 0°C will maybe rather melt the ice, but at this point you have only energy for melting a bit more than ½kg of ice. So all in all 1kg of 1200°C lava will only melt ~1kg of ice at -20°C.

                      So don't think this would be overly effective.

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                      #24

                      @lazy @NO_KINGS_muc this may be the most Mastodon reply ever.

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                      • no_kings_muc@mastodon.socialN no_kings_muc@mastodon.social

                        We had a missinformation, sorry!
                        The LAVA quote comes from Kaylie Morphew (threads.com/@kaylie.morphew)

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                        #25

                        @NO_KINGS_muc
                        Thanks! So great seeing self-correction posts on social media! #honesty #humility #integrity

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