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  3. Somewhat alarmed that the LLM detritus seems to no longer have a toggle to be disabled in the iOS 27 and macOS betas.

Somewhat alarmed that the LLM detritus seems to no longer have a toggle to be disabled in the iOS 27 and macOS betas.

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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

    Protesting LLMs by refusing to use any software that includes them feels like attempting to protest the introduction of tetraethyl lead into gasoline by refusing to breathe until everyone stops putting it in their cars. So I am drawing my personal moral lines in such a way that I will probably accept this.

    But please don't mistake this for excitement about huffing a bunch of vaporized lead.

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    #30

    @glyph For software that I used since pre-LLM times I continue being a user only if they offer a switch to disable LLM functions or alternatively if I can ignore the LLM functions. This is the sad category where I'm putting GitHub, Google Apps and many others.

    But for new software I have never used before, the existence of LLM functionality is a deal breaker.

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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      @josh0 thanks, that is hopeful! please send feedback that this is a desirable state and they should expose it

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      #31

      @glyph @josh0 Disabling Siri doesn't disable Apple Intelligence. For example, Image Playgrounds functions on OS 27 with Siri disabled, whereas on OS 26 it doesn't since I have Apple Intelligence disabled. Instead, we have to use Screen Time's Content & Privacy restrictions.

      https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/block-access-to-apple-intelligence-features-mchlb2e44f94/26/mac/26

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      • soltwoone@infosec.exchangeS soltwoone@infosec.exchange

        @glyph @josh0 Disabling Siri doesn't disable Apple Intelligence. For example, Image Playgrounds functions on OS 27 with Siri disabled, whereas on OS 26 it doesn't since I have Apple Intelligence disabled. Instead, we have to use Screen Time's Content & Privacy restrictions.

        https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/block-access-to-apple-intelligence-features-mchlb2e44f94/26/mac/26

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        #32

        @SolTwoOne @glyph ok, but Image Playground is a discrete app. Just don’t use it, and it has no impact on you.

        Some of the features that are now labeled as ‘Apple Intelligence’ have been around since before LLMs were the next big thing.

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          Somewhat alarmed that the LLM detritus seems to no longer have a toggle to be disabled in the iOS 27 and macOS betas. I hope, but do not expect, that it will come back in the final releases.

          If I want to still be able to set a timer when I'm cooking with my voice, I probably need to accept a bunch of nonconsensual slop ("writing tools") being shoved in my face in every app.

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          #33

          Apple shipped a toggle for "do you want AI slop in your face" and then removed it before release. The opt-out existing at all was probably an accident.

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          • prometheus@pmth.usP prometheus@pmth.us

            Apple shipped a toggle for "do you want AI slop in your face" and then removed it before release. The opt-out existing at all was probably an accident.

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            #34

            @prometheus that is not an accurate description of what happened? the “apple intelligence” toggle has been present in many releases thus far. it appears to be missing from current betas, but it’s not clear if that is to encourage beta users to test this functionality or because it’s actually going away

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              Protesting LLMs by refusing to use any software that includes them feels like attempting to protest the introduction of tetraethyl lead into gasoline by refusing to breathe until everyone stops putting it in their cars. So I am drawing my personal moral lines in such a way that I will probably accept this.

              But please don't mistake this for excitement about huffing a bunch of vaporized lead.

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              #35

              @glyph That is…such an apt metaphor

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              • dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD dianea@lgbtqia.space

                @glyph

                Don't laugh, but I would rather work around gamma radiation or hazmat again than have to work with AI 🫠

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                @dianea @glyph I would only laugh if I thought you were joking.

                This seems reasonable to me. Hazmat has a validated set of safety practices that you can engage in, legislative support for ensuring they are followed, and a well-socialized understanding of their necessity. AI has “it’s probably fine, it’s just words on a computer, how could it even hurt you, get back to work”.

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                • dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD dianea@lgbtqia.space

                  @glyph

                  Don't laugh, but I would rather work around gamma radiation or hazmat again than have to work with AI 🫠

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                  #37

                  @dianea There is a black fungus at Chernobyl that has gamma-photosynthesis, to feed on gamma radiation...

                  So life can survive deadliest places on earth, meanwhile AI slop just destroys everything for nothing.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus

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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    @kfdm @dianea externalities are the whole value proposition with AI though https://blog.glyph.im/2026/06/adversarial-communication.html

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                    @kfdm @dianea and the vendors have basically admitted it directly https://www.salon.com/2024/01/09/impossible-openai-admits-chatgpt-cant-exist-without-pinching-copyrighted-work/

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                      #39

                      @kfdm @dianea externalities are the whole value proposition with AI though https://blog.glyph.im/2026/06/adversarial-communication.html

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