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  3. So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.

So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.

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  • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

    So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
    Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
    I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
    Wars have long lasting consequences.

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    @carstenfranke 😱

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    • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

      So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
      Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
      I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
      Wars have long lasting consequences.

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      #5

      @carstenfranke

      look up landmine cleanup in asia. wwi and wwii left a huge amount of dangerous stuff all over EU too.

      wars never have winners. sometimes they have survivors.

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      • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

        @carstenfranke

        look up landmine cleanup in asia. wwi and wwii left a huge amount of dangerous stuff all over EU too.

        wars never have winners. sometimes they have survivors.

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        #6

        @paul_ipv6 yes, it is horrible, I have lived with WWII ammunition all my life in Germany. Even last year when visiting my mom there was a lockdown because they had found a WWII bomb nearby.

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        • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

          So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
          Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
          I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
          Wars have long lasting consequences.

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          @carstenfranke I'm an American living in Aachen. The countryside around Aachen looks and feels more like southern Spain than Germany at the moment. It's hot and dry, and what's normally green is brown. I was around Julich and Geilenkirchen yesterday, and smoke from the fire is clearly visible. Firefighters couldn't get near the fire yesterday because of the ammo, so a single helicopter was working to contain it. I guess the new climate normal will demand expansion of Germany's wildfire unit.

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          • fckice@mastodon.socialF fckice@mastodon.social

            @carstenfranke I'm an American living in Aachen. The countryside around Aachen looks and feels more like southern Spain than Germany at the moment. It's hot and dry, and what's normally green is brown. I was around Julich and Geilenkirchen yesterday, and smoke from the fire is clearly visible. Firefighters couldn't get near the fire yesterday because of the ammo, so a single helicopter was working to contain it. I guess the new climate normal will demand expansion of Germany's wildfire unit.

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            @fckice @carstenfranke Holy cow. Does the old ammo get triggered by the fires?

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            • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

              So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
              Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
              I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
              Wars have long lasting consequences.

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              @carstenfranke good god, so random explosions are possible, sending fire even further away? Yikes!

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              • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

                So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
                Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
                I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
                Wars have long lasting consequences.

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                @carstenfranke - oh, no. That sounds awful! I'm thinking of that old song: "War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!"

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                • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

                  So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
                  Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
                  I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
                  Wars have long lasting consequences.

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                  @carstenfranke

                  I saw an article about an old WWII battle site in a jungle in New Guinea with unrecovered bodies. The locals never go there for fear of ghosts. Or fear of unexploded munitions.

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                  • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

                    So in my home state in Germany there is a forest on fire, the largest wildfire in the history of North Rhine-Westfalia.
                    Size wise nothing compared to what we see here in the US, but there is a little quirk: firefighters have to be extra cautious and can't access all areas, because of WWII ammunition, mines and grenades that still are in the soil.
                    I remember hiking that general area with my parents in the 1980s and occasionally finding rifle rounds.
                    Wars have long lasting consequences.

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                    @carstenfranke Wow, that really is a bummer with the lost munitions in the area. Wouldn't be any fun at all to be hiking along a trail and find a hand-grenade or something. And off trail hiking isn't happening.

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                    • jeanevergreen@montereybay.socialJ jeanevergreen@montereybay.social

                      @carstenfranke - oh, no. That sounds awful! I'm thinking of that old song: "War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!"

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                      @JeanEvergreen @carstenfranke

                      Edwin Starr, excellent song!

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