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  3. I generally understand “evil” to mean when someone pursues their own goals heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

I generally understand “evil” to mean when someone pursues their own goals heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

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    I generally understand “evil” to mean when someone pursues their own goals heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

    I think this is at least an excellent first approximation. Most people committing evil acts aren't sadistic. They are just pursuing their own goals, and choosing to ignore or disregard the costs to others.

    On this definition, large corporations are evil *by design*. They are constructed specifically to pursue their own corporate goals, heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

    Smaller corporations can be to some extent restrained in this evil by the actions of their employees. Larger ones cannot. The larger a corporation is, the eviller.

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    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

      I generally understand “evil” to mean when someone pursues their own goals heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

      I think this is at least an excellent first approximation. Most people committing evil acts aren't sadistic. They are just pursuing their own goals, and choosing to ignore or disregard the costs to others.

      On this definition, large corporations are evil *by design*. They are constructed specifically to pursue their own corporate goals, heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

      Smaller corporations can be to some extent restrained in this evil by the actions of their employees. Larger ones cannot. The larger a corporation is, the eviller.

      haineux@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mjd At the risk of starting a pedantic aside:
      https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/

      In my dreams, I get Apple to become one.

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      • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

        I generally understand “evil” to mean when someone pursues their own goals heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

        I think this is at least an excellent first approximation. Most people committing evil acts aren't sadistic. They are just pursuing their own goals, and choosing to ignore or disregard the costs to others.

        On this definition, large corporations are evil *by design*. They are constructed specifically to pursue their own corporate goals, heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

        Smaller corporations can be to some extent restrained in this evil by the actions of their employees. Larger ones cannot. The larger a corporation is, the eviller.

        barubary@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mjd Or in other words: Large corporations are paperclip maximizers regardless of who happens to work for them at the moment.

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        • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

          I generally understand “evil” to mean when someone pursues their own goals heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

          I think this is at least an excellent first approximation. Most people committing evil acts aren't sadistic. They are just pursuing their own goals, and choosing to ignore or disregard the costs to others.

          On this definition, large corporations are evil *by design*. They are constructed specifically to pursue their own corporate goals, heedless of any loss or suffering it brings to others.

          Smaller corporations can be to some extent restrained in this evil by the actions of their employees. Larger ones cannot. The larger a corporation is, the eviller.

          alexelcu@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mjd I believe in God, therefore I believe in the existence of Evil. Just making a remark that if you don't believe in God, then good and evil don't really exist, as they'd be human inventions that are relative to what a majority wants, enacted by a corruptible state.

          So ... humans, too, have a corrupted nature by design as well. And companies are as good or evil as the people running them.

          BTW, s/company/state/g would still be true; the larger the state, the more potential for evil it has 😉

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