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  • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

    Can we call them chips instead of tokens so that I can feel like if I ask an LLM a question I am actually at the casino?

    Because I'm actually at the casino.

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    #102

    Has anybody seen any analyses of how quickly large language models collapse when you feed them training data which is the output of large language models?

    In other words, as more of the garbage on the Internet is created by large language models, are the new models going to implode? And if so how quickly?

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    • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

      Has anybody seen any analyses of how quickly large language models collapse when you feed them training data which is the output of large language models?

      In other words, as more of the garbage on the Internet is created by large language models, are the new models going to implode? And if so how quickly?

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      #103

      _Sam Altman’s Coworkers Say He Can Barely Code and Misunderstands Basic Machine Learning Concepts_
      https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/sam-altman-technical-coding

      Why would he know how to code? His job is to con people.

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      • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

        _Sam Altman’s Coworkers Say He Can Barely Code and Misunderstands Basic Machine Learning Concepts_
        https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/sam-altman-technical-coding

        Why would he know how to code? His job is to con people.

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        #104

        They tested an AI running a fake store. It failed and went bankrupt.

        Make it President, perhaps?

        "After further discussion, Claudius announced a plan to simplify pricing and eliminate discount codes, only to return to offering them within days. Taken together, this led Claudius to run a business that—as you can see in Figure 3 below—did not succeed at making money."

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        • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

          They tested an AI running a fake store. It failed and went bankrupt.

          Make it President, perhaps?

          "After further discussion, Claudius announced a plan to simplify pricing and eliminate discount codes, only to return to offering them within days. Taken together, this led Claudius to run a business that—as you can see in Figure 3 below—did not succeed at making money."

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          #105

          But here's the capitalist tech.bro dream para

          "It’s worth remembering that the AI won’t have to be perfect to be adopted; it will just have to be competitive with human performance at a lower cost in some cases."

          https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1

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          • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

            But here's the capitalist tech.bro dream para

            "It’s worth remembering that the AI won’t have to be perfect to be adopted; it will just have to be competitive with human performance at a lower cost in some cases."

            https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1

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            #106

            I found it interesting that when the anthropic guys said that the model did not perform well, one of their solutions was "stromger prompting"

            So you beg the word matcher to match words better?

            Does this actually work in anything other than the most temporary or transitory way?

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            • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

              I found it interesting that when the anthropic guys said that the model did not perform well, one of their solutions was "stromger prompting"

              So you beg the word matcher to match words better?

              Does this actually work in anything other than the most temporary or transitory way?

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              #107

              For the billions of dollars poured into creating a data center, you would expect thousands of jobs.

              Nope.

              Couple hundred.

              https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/nx-s1-5355017/data-centers-bring-money-to-small-towns-but-do-they-also-bring-jobs

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              • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                For the billions of dollars poured into creating a data center, you would expect thousands of jobs.

                Nope.

                Couple hundred.

                https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/nx-s1-5355017/data-centers-bring-money-to-small-towns-but-do-they-also-bring-jobs

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                #108

                BISAHA: Now, this is actually the second $10 billion data center project Mississippi announced in the last year. The state called that the largest economic development project in its history, which sounds like an economy-transforming event, like a car factory bringing in thousands of jobs. But the thing to remember about data centers is that they just don't hire many people.

                KARTIK HOSANAGAR: Most data centers, you know, they employ about hundred to 200 people.

                ...

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                • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                  BISAHA: Now, this is actually the second $10 billion data center project Mississippi announced in the last year. The state called that the largest economic development project in its history, which sounds like an economy-transforming event, like a car factory bringing in thousands of jobs. But the thing to remember about data centers is that they just don't hire many people.

                  KARTIK HOSANAGAR: Most data centers, you know, they employ about hundred to 200 people.

                  ...

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                  #109

                  ...

                  BISAHA: Kartik Hosanagar is the codirector of the Wharton Business School's AI research center.

                  HOSANAGAR: In fact, when Apple created a $1 billion data center in North Carolina, the news stories reported that there were less than hundred permanent jobs created as a result.

                  (Ed. "Fewer than")

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                    ...

                    BISAHA: Kartik Hosanagar is the codirector of the Wharton Business School's AI research center.

                    HOSANAGAR: In fact, when Apple created a $1 billion data center in North Carolina, the news stories reported that there were less than hundred permanent jobs created as a result.

                    (Ed. "Fewer than")

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                    #110

                    So, unsurprisingly, OpenAI has already thought about the possibility of influencing the answers that ChatGPT gives you, for advertising purposes.

                    🤡

                    " “Most importantly: ads will not influence the answers ChatGPT gives you,” said Fidji Simo, the company’s CEO of applications, in a social media post Friday. "
                    https://apnews.com/article/chatgpt-ads-openai-advertising-83812a066375a805fa2e29b28fc77da1

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                    • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                      So, unsurprisingly, OpenAI has already thought about the possibility of influencing the answers that ChatGPT gives you, for advertising purposes.

                      🤡

                      " “Most importantly: ads will not influence the answers ChatGPT gives you,” said Fidji Simo, the company’s CEO of applications, in a social media post Friday. "
                      https://apnews.com/article/chatgpt-ads-openai-advertising-83812a066375a805fa2e29b28fc77da1

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                      #111

                      _Magnificent irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs_
                      https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/22/meta_employee_surveillance_software/

                      "The document reportedly explains that Meta feels AI models don’t understand how people use computers, so the company needs real-life examples of how meatbags click their way through a working day so it can build agents. ...

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                      • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                        _Magnificent irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs_
                        https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/22/meta_employee_surveillance_software/

                        "The document reportedly explains that Meta feels AI models don’t understand how people use computers, so the company needs real-life examples of how meatbags click their way through a working day so it can build agents. ...

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                        #112

                        " ... CTO Andrew Bosworth apparently said collecting this data from Meta staff will help the company to realize a vision for a world “where our agents primarily do the work and our role is to direct, review and help them improve.” "

                        [Breathes in]

                        Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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                        • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                          " ... CTO Andrew Bosworth apparently said collecting this data from Meta staff will help the company to realize a vision for a world “where our agents primarily do the work and our role is to direct, review and help them improve.” "

                          [Breathes in]

                          Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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                          #113

                          Yo dog, I heard you like to put your important documents into a statistical word machine. This paper got some statistics for your statistics.

                          At best, 25% of the time your documents are going to come back corrupted. Even using the latest and greatest statistical word machine.

                          _LLMs Corrupt Your Documents When You Delegate_
                          https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.15597

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                            Yo dog, I heard you like to put your important documents into a statistical word machine. This paper got some statistics for your statistics.

                            At best, 25% of the time your documents are going to come back corrupted. Even using the latest and greatest statistical word machine.

                            _LLMs Corrupt Your Documents When You Delegate_
                            https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.15597

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                            #114

                            This is why when I use LLMs to edit important documents, I always have an employee double-check things. He or she is the person I fire when it comes to light the LLM screwed everything up.

                            'Cause you can't fire a chatbot, silly!

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                              This is why when I use LLMs to edit important documents, I always have an employee double-check things. He or she is the person I fire when it comes to light the LLM screwed everything up.

                              'Cause you can't fire a chatbot, silly!

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                              #115

                              Some people have said there are no savings doing it my way.

                              But you know, I have to tell those people that there are greater things than pure profits. Like quality of output. Pride in workmanship. Stuff like that. If you need further examplea I'll ask ChatGPT for more. Hmm gotta refill the token wallet I guess.

                              Anyway what was I saying?

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                                Some people have said there are no savings doing it my way.

                                But you know, I have to tell those people that there are greater things than pure profits. Like quality of output. Pride in workmanship. Stuff like that. If you need further examplea I'll ask ChatGPT for more. Hmm gotta refill the token wallet I guess.

                                Anyway what was I saying?

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                                #116

                                Ai agent deleted the inbox of a Meta AI director

                                https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/openclaw-wipes-inbox-of-meta-ai-alignment-director-executive-finds-out-the-hard-way-how-spectacularly-efficient-ai-tool-is-at-maintaining-her-inbox

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                                  Ai agent deleted the inbox of a Meta AI director

                                  https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/openclaw-wipes-inbox-of-meta-ai-alignment-director-executive-finds-out-the-hard-way-how-spectacularly-efficient-ai-tool-is-at-maintaining-her-inbox

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                                  #117

                                  Claude Code deleted 2.5 years of data

                                  _Claude Code deletes developers' production setup, including its database and snapshots — 2.5 years of records were nuked in an instant_
                                  https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/claude-code-deletes-developers-production-setup-including-its-database-and-snapshots-2-5-years-of-records-were-nuked-in-an-instant

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                                    Claude Code deleted 2.5 years of data

                                    _Claude Code deletes developers' production setup, including its database and snapshots — 2.5 years of records were nuked in an instant_
                                    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/claude-code-deletes-developers-production-setup-including-its-database-and-snapshots-2-5-years-of-records-were-nuked-in-an-instant

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                                    #118

                                    Claude coding agent deletes all comment data. "Says" it didn't RTFM before it conducted destructive command.

                                    (Company had a backup from 3 months ago.)

                                    _Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue_
                                    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/claude-powered-ai-coding-agent-deletes-entire-company-database-in-9-seconds-backups-zapped-after-cursor-tool-powered-by-anthropics-claude-goes-rogue

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                                      Claude coding agent deletes all comment data. "Says" it didn't RTFM before it conducted destructive command.

                                      (Company had a backup from 3 months ago.)

                                      _Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds — backups zapped, after Cursor tool powered by Anthropic's Claude goes rogue_
                                      https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/claude-powered-ai-coding-agent-deletes-entire-company-database-in-9-seconds-backups-zapped-after-cursor-tool-powered-by-anthropics-claude-goes-rogue

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                                      #119

                                      An alleged murderer of his two roommates recently had his phone examined by the police.

                                      He had asked ChatGPT "will my neighbors hear my gun?"

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/26/us/university-south-florida-doctoral-student-killed-suspect

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                                        An alleged murderer of his two roommates recently had his phone examined by the police.

                                        He had asked ChatGPT "will my neighbors hear my gun?"

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/26/us/university-south-florida-doctoral-student-killed-suspect

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                                        #120

                                        Golly, "intelligence" that requires being told what to think?

                                        The last "intelligence" I saw that worked this way was Republicans.

                                        ---

                                        "The workers the Swedish newspapers spoke to were data annotators, teaching Meta's AI to interpret images by manually labelling content.

                                        The workers said they reviewed transcripts with the AI to check it had answered questions adequately."

                                        _Meta in row after workers who say they saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs_
                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7yvgy0w6o

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                                          Golly, "intelligence" that requires being told what to think?

                                          The last "intelligence" I saw that worked this way was Republicans.

                                          ---

                                          "The workers the Swedish newspapers spoke to were data annotators, teaching Meta's AI to interpret images by manually labelling content.

                                          The workers said they reviewed transcripts with the AI to check it had answered questions adequately."

                                          _Meta in row after workers who say they saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs_
                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7yvgy0w6o

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                                          #121

                                          I just asked Google AI if a certain video game has a new game++ mode. That means you've played it through twice and you're going to play it through a third time.

                                          Google's answer to me was "yes it does have a new game + (note the single plus) which some games call new game ++"

                                          No.

                                          Zero video games would call the third playthrough a single plus.

                                          That's ridiculous. Large language models are ridiculous. And they feed you this information confidently.

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