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  3. The insanity of this is that Trump is funding a country who is supplying armaments to Iran, who the US is at war with.

The insanity of this is that Trump is funding a country who is supplying armaments to Iran, who the US is at war with.

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  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

    RE: https://masto.ai/@Nonilex/117453794779199297

    The insanity of this is that Trump is funding a country who is supplying armaments to Iran, who the US is at war with.

    This is such a perfect illustration of the obscene veil of geopolitical nonsense when it's pulled back.

    There are men who want to cling onto power. They will do anything, fund anyone, kill any number of civilians, ruin any number of healthy economies.... just to hang onto their own personal power a few minutes longer.

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    #26

    @Remittancegirl Oh, he'll happily kill an indefinite number of US service members too. They've already signed away their rights, so are cheaper.

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    • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

      @Remittancegirl It's also worth considering why people voted for this stuff, notwithstanding that nobody asked for these specific outcomes...
      The west seems to have trouble coming to terms with its own exploitativeness. We don't want other regions and developing economies to succeed, because we expect them to screw us over. Even on the environmentalist left we worry that the economic expansion yet to come will worsen the environmental crisis. We're riding a monster we can't get off.

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      #27

      @kbm0 You know, I used to think it was worth considering, but I'm starting to feel it isn't.

      A majority of people are short-sighted, weak and petulant. Which makes them easily manipulable and prone to gestures linked to identity rather than communality.

      I'm not for a moment suggesting people don't have absolutely legitimate grievances. But they always have. Regular people have always been instrumentalised by those in power, with more or less misery attached.

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      • spanghero@ioc.exchangeS spanghero@ioc.exchange

        @Remittancegirl @jaypeach53 When’s he divorcing Melania so he can marry a horse he’s just made Secretary of State.

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        #28

        @spanghero @Remittancegirl @jaypeach53

        Are you trying to Incitatus a riot?

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        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

          @unkx
          I want you to notice that you have posted a statement that cannot be replied to with any coherence.

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          #29

          @Remittancegirl yeah i added the sarcasm tag there for a reason.

          However it does not change the fact that trump is in power because enough people decided not to vote for Kamala Harris, thereby ensuring that trump won, which resulted in the world now being a much less safe and enjoyable place for billions of people who had no say in the matter.

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          • wellsitegeo@masto.aiW wellsitegeo@masto.ai

            @spanghero @Remittancegirl @jaypeach53

            Are you trying to Incitatus a riot?

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            #30

            @WellsiteGeo 😂 @spanghero @jaypeach53

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              @Remittancegirl yeah i added the sarcasm tag there for a reason.

              However it does not change the fact that trump is in power because enough people decided not to vote for Kamala Harris, thereby ensuring that trump won, which resulted in the world now being a much less safe and enjoyable place for billions of people who had no say in the matter.

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              #31

              @unkx I know. It was just framed in a way that had no response. And while sarcasm can feel good, it really isn't terribly easy to engage with. I like your restatement far better. It's undeniably true.

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              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                RE: https://masto.ai/@Nonilex/117453794779199297

                The insanity of this is that Trump is funding a country who is supplying armaments to Iran, who the US is at war with.

                This is such a perfect illustration of the obscene veil of geopolitical nonsense when it's pulled back.

                There are men who want to cling onto power. They will do anything, fund anyone, kill any number of civilians, ruin any number of healthy economies.... just to hang onto their own personal power a few minutes longer.

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                #32

                @Remittancegirl Of course that's not what executive orders are for.

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                • spanghero@ioc.exchangeS spanghero@ioc.exchange

                  @Remittancegirl The reason I think there’s kompromat is that he usually appears to respond to the last person he speaks to but in this instance it’s Russia all the way, regardless. In terms of the kompromat I don’t think it’s as salacious as some believe. I think it’ll be dubious and illegal financial deals over the decades.
                  Edit: which of course, doesn’t exclude manipulation of his ego.

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                  #33

                  @spanghero @Remittancegirl
                  I *suspect* that Israel also has the компромат (or similar).

                  An organisation like Epstein's would be an absolute MAGNET for infiltration by Mossad. And the KGB. (And La Deuxième, and MI6 too, no blushes here.)
                  And if you found The Opposition's cameras while installing yours, you do NOT alert them, just work around it.

                  Multiple people have Trump's underage snuff movie.
                  (And there's no reason a stooge like Epstein would have been told. Why would you?)

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                  • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                    @Remittancegirl Of course that's not what executive orders are for.

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                    #34

                    @ariaflame Apparently executive orders are whatever the president of the US deems them to be.

                    If the Dems take back control of the House and the Senate, they should ammend the constitution to codify this. But they won't. I fear they will just go back to pretending things are normal.

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                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                      @kbm0 You know, I used to think it was worth considering, but I'm starting to feel it isn't.

                      A majority of people are short-sighted, weak and petulant. Which makes them easily manipulable and prone to gestures linked to identity rather than communality.

                      I'm not for a moment suggesting people don't have absolutely legitimate grievances. But they always have. Regular people have always been instrumentalised by those in power, with more or less misery attached.

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                      #35

                      @Remittancegirl Yeah I sort of agree, but I try not to get too inevitablist about it. If the problem is both the people (too weak and petulant) and the "leaders" (too manipulative) then it's hard to know where to start.
                      In the UK at least, I do think there has been a slow shift away from an (albeit conservative) civic-mindedness, towards a more consumerist attitude.

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                      • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                        @Remittancegirl Yeah I sort of agree, but I try not to get too inevitablist about it. If the problem is both the people (too weak and petulant) and the "leaders" (too manipulative) then it's hard to know where to start.
                        In the UK at least, I do think there has been a slow shift away from an (albeit conservative) civic-mindedness, towards a more consumerist attitude.

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                        #36

                        @kbm0 Without a doubt.

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                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                          @ariaflame Apparently executive orders are whatever the president of the US deems them to be.

                          If the Dems take back control of the House and the Senate, they should ammend the constitution to codify this. But they won't. I fear they will just go back to pretending things are normal.

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                          #37

                          @Remittancegirl I mean they are only directives to departments. They don't get to contravene the law. But since he doesn't actually care what is illegal and nobody is holding him to account, it doesn't matter. If the constitution said he couldn't do it he wouldn't care either. After all, he's doing things that are forbidden by that as well.

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                          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                            So, there are some possible options:

                            1. Trump's attention span is so sort and so narrow, he doesn't register this dichotomy.

                            2. There are people behind him suggesting shit to a compliant Trump who are architecting this incoherence for their own purposes.

                            Are there others I'm not seeing? Can you think of some frame in which the logic of this makes sense?

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                            #38

                            @Remittancegirl
                            I assume the simplest explanation is that the narcissist sociopath does whatever benefits him personally or emotionally, and that he can get away with.
                            A lot of money went into making sure the supreme court said he can get away with literally anything, so there are no brakes on the clown car.

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                            • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                              @Remittancegirl I mean they are only directives to departments. They don't get to contravene the law. But since he doesn't actually care what is illegal and nobody is holding him to account, it doesn't matter. If the constitution said he couldn't do it he wouldn't care either. After all, he's doing things that are forbidden by that as well.

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                              #39

                              @ariaflame True, but if it were codified in the constitution, even the current supreme court would have problems upholding it. (not all the members, but a majority)

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                              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                @Illuminatus No question, but that was always present. Right?

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                                #40

                                @Remittancegirl @Illuminatus

                                We know how successful the Nazis were at keeping America out of WW2. It was that idiot Hitler who ruined their work by declaring war on the US.
                                And because of a "treaty", even! What an idiot. I'm surprised he made Corporal.

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                                • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                                  @Remittancegirl Yeah I sort of agree, but I try not to get too inevitablist about it. If the problem is both the people (too weak and petulant) and the "leaders" (too manipulative) then it's hard to know where to start.
                                  In the UK at least, I do think there has been a slow shift away from an (albeit conservative) civic-mindedness, towards a more consumerist attitude.

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                                  #41

                                  @Remittancegirl For example, people have always been annoyed with the BBC. But now they want to get rid of it, rather than fix it.
                                  People get upset with their political party because of single issue X, so they look for another party, expecting to find one that is tailored to their views. That is a consumer mindset.

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                                  • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                                    @Remittancegirl
                                    I assume the simplest explanation is that the narcissist sociopath does whatever benefits him personally or emotionally, and that he can get away with.
                                    A lot of money went into making sure the supreme court said he can get away with literally anything, so there are no brakes on the clown car.

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                                    #42

                                    @petealexharris I can't argue with this, but I would say that what has unfolded takes more of an attention span than Trump has.

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                                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                      @unkx I know. It was just framed in a way that had no response. And while sarcasm can feel good, it really isn't terribly easy to engage with. I like your restatement far better. It's undeniably true.

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                                      #43

                                      @Remittancegirl yeah sarcasm is hard. Especially online with people from dlfferent cultures and backgrounds etc.

                                      And personally I suck at remembering that whenever I’m trying to say something ”meaningful” and get the bright idea to use sarcasm as the framing device…

                                      (Also english ain’t my native language, so some idioms that are ”natural” to me make no sense in english, and some english language idioms i still don’t get to this day…)

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                                      • wellsitegeo@masto.aiW wellsitegeo@masto.ai

                                        @Remittancegirl @Illuminatus

                                        We know how successful the Nazis were at keeping America out of WW2. It was that idiot Hitler who ruined their work by declaring war on the US.
                                        And because of a "treaty", even! What an idiot. I'm surprised he made Corporal.

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                                        #44

                                        @WellsiteGeo @Illuminatus Actually, it was Japan. It was the bombing of Pearl Harbour that finally got the US into WWII.

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                                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                          @kbm0 You know, I used to think it was worth considering, but I'm starting to feel it isn't.

                                          A majority of people are short-sighted, weak and petulant. Which makes them easily manipulable and prone to gestures linked to identity rather than communality.

                                          I'm not for a moment suggesting people don't have absolutely legitimate grievances. But they always have. Regular people have always been instrumentalised by those in power, with more or less misery attached.

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                                          #45

                                          @Remittancegirl @kbm0
                                          "A majority of people are short-sighted,"

                                          Like I've said for decades, we still haven't understood the consequences of these "agriculture" and "pottery" technologies.
                                          10kyr clearly is not time enough.

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