Nice method
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@benroyce They also sometimes have a female and a male interviewer separately. If the candidate talks down to one and boasts to the other, he gets turfed.
One place I worked, you got a couple of morning interviews, then you got taken out to lunch. The morning interviewers huddled and decided if you got afternoon interviews or a "thanks, we'll let you know" when you got back from lunch.
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@benroyce Can confirm.
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@jwildeboer This 7-year-old quote as a screenshot seems to be an evergreen
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@jwildeboer This 7-year-old quote as a screenshot seems to be an evergreen
@holger @jwildeboer ok, it's old. What's it means in this cobtext? It never happened? Or nowadays it's lost his historical meaning?
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@holger @jwildeboer ok, it's old. What's it means in this cobtext? It never happened? Or nowadays it's lost his historical meaning?
Nothing that’s beyond your imagination. I just wanted to point it out to Jan because it’s always shared without tagging him. And he probably knows it anyway.
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J jwcph@helvede.net shared this topic
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Nothing that’s beyond your imagination. I just wanted to point it out to Jan because it’s always shared without tagging him. And he probably knows it anyway.
@holger @mcSlibinas I love it that it's still going around
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@benroyce do you think the candidate will learn from it? If they put the rules of the work place on the web - all can learn from it.
But if it's not a clear rule - he may even don't understand what is happend. -
@benroyce do you think the candidate will learn from it? If they put the rules of the work place on the web - all can learn from it.
But if it's not a clear rule - he may even don't understand what is happend.But... who gives a shit. If you're dealing with a bigot, fuck them. End of discussion
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But... who gives a shit. If you're dealing with a bigot, fuck them. End of discussion
@benroyce not so fast - there was a chance to teach him something new.
The way you propose builds a barriers.
Cheers Mate.
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@benroyce not just tech bro! This happened to me a couple of months ago, and it was a young guy we were interviewing, and really right on/progressive, too, in terms of what he was saying. He directed everything we all asked at my male colleague, who is undeniably lovely but in hierarchical terms was the most junior member of our panel.
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@benroyce not just techbros, works across job functions in my experience
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@benroyce not so fast - there was a chance to teach him something new.
The way you propose builds a barriers.
Cheers Mate.
What i dislike about that is that it shifts responsibility. We can't be responsible for educating bigots. Rising or falling depending upon how bigoted someone is should be enough lesson and personal motivation. It's not hard. It's not like culture and society isn't screaming the lesson constantly. So some will learn, some won't. If some won't: oh well
Again, why do we have the job of doing someone else's fundamental social responsibility for them. It's a fool's errand.
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@benroyce not just tech bro! This happened to me a couple of months ago, and it was a young guy we were interviewing, and really right on/progressive, too, in terms of what he was saying. He directed everything we all asked at my male colleague, who is undeniably lovely but in hierarchical terms was the most junior member of our panel.
@Ludo oof
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@benroyce I lived in a muslim community. Women in this community don't like men to be looking at them, which made me hesitant to maintain eye contact with women in general. I'm also bad with eye contact, which happens with people with ASD.
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@benroyce I just had to follow you because of your post, I never worked in tech, but this is awesome!
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@benroyce I lived in a muslim community. Women in this community don't like men to be looking at them, which made me hesitant to maintain eye contact with women in general. I'm also bad with eye contact, which happens with people with ASD.
I think there's a difference between unwanted eye contact in purely social situations and eye contact in an employment scenario. I understand the cultural differences but I don't think they overrule the stricter hierarchy of a work environment. Someone should look at a boss, or interviewer, a certain way that has nothing to do with their gender or their culture. They should just see "boss" or "interviewer", woman or man doesn't matter
This is strictly in the employment context
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@benroyce yeah, totally unconscious 🫣 sweet lad, too. He never asked for feedback, which is a pity because he can't address it if no one gets to tell him about it. Thing is many women don't even notice, it happens so frequently. Our lovely male colleague on the panel hadn't noticed...and he was off to the side so it was painfully obvious
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@benroyce harder to do remote, but I have failed quite a few people for this.
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@benroyce I just had to follow you because of your post, I never worked in tech, but this is awesome!
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