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Ukraine is not losing.

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  • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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    • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

      Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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      #2

      @anneapplebaum war of attrition

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      • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

        Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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        #3

        @anneapplebaum

        Thank you very much :))

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        • pgiulan@federate.socialP pgiulan@federate.social

          @anneapplebaum war of attrition

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          #4

          @pgiulan @anneapplebaum

          yes but for #russia the attrition is people, and for #ukraine the attrition is drones

          it's not that if you get an "F" at university you get sent to the frontlines, it's that if you don't bribe your professor to get a good grade you get sent to the frontlines

          there is also a quota of employees placed on businesses for drafting into frontline service

          businesses have responded by "hiring" people to immediately send to the frontlines

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/russia-embarks-on-plan-to-recruit-soldiers-from-universities/106757174

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @pgiulan @anneapplebaum

            yes but for #russia the attrition is people, and for #ukraine the attrition is drones

            it's not that if you get an "F" at university you get sent to the frontlines, it's that if you don't bribe your professor to get a good grade you get sent to the frontlines

            there is also a quota of employees placed on businesses for drafting into frontline service

            businesses have responded by "hiring" people to immediately send to the frontlines

            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/russia-embarks-on-plan-to-recruit-soldiers-from-universities/106757174

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            #5

            @benroyce @pgiulan @anneapplebaum Unfortunately not only. Civilians and military are dying every day. Every one is too many.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @pgiulan @anneapplebaum

              yes but for #russia the attrition is people, and for #ukraine the attrition is drones

              it's not that if you get an "F" at university you get sent to the frontlines, it's that if you don't bribe your professor to get a good grade you get sent to the frontlines

              there is also a quota of employees placed on businesses for drafting into frontline service

              businesses have responded by "hiring" people to immediately send to the frontlines

              https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-07/russia-embarks-on-plan-to-recruit-soldiers-from-universities/106757174

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              #6

              @benroyce @pgiulan @anneapplebaum I guess it’s propaganda or nationalism or something…I was hoping there’d be rebellion by now. Surely a sizable portion of Russian citizens don’t want to leap into that meat grinder.

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              • timfinnerty@toot.ioT timfinnerty@toot.io

                @benroyce @pgiulan @anneapplebaum Unfortunately not only. Civilians and military are dying every day. Every one is too many.

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                #7

                @TimFinnerty @pgiulan @anneapplebaum

                no argument, i did not phrase it effectively

                what i intended to say is that ukraine values human life, while russia is a sterling example of not valuing human life

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                • mister_shade02x2@mastodon.socialM mister_shade02x2@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce @pgiulan @anneapplebaum I guess it’s propaganda or nationalism or something…I was hoping there’d be rebellion by now. Surely a sizable portion of Russian citizens don’t want to leap into that meat grinder.

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                  #8

                  @mister_shade02X2 @pgiulan @anneapplebaum

                  i think that in a society where there is no avenue for expressing discontent, discontent still exists, but you raise the threshold before it becomes apparent. and at that higher threshold, the discontent becomes quite fucking venomous

                  so it's not a matter of the resistance is not there, it's more a matter of a pressure cooker that will explode

                  i think

                  it would be quite sad if people are just fed to their senseless death to the last person meekly

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                  • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                    Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
                    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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                    #9

                    @anneapplebaum

                    Iran is also not losing. Cheers!

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                    • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                      Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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                      #10

                      @anneapplebaum I think that when Ukraine didn't roll over within the first three months or so russia effectively lost. Particularly after the boasts about how quick would be the putin victory.

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                      • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                        Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
                        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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                        #11

                        @anneapplebaum oh but it is

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                        • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                          Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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                          #12

                          @anneapplebaum

                          ... and pacifists don't support war, right?

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                          • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                            Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
                            https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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                            #13
                            @anneapplebaum Why would Russia wanna invade Fascist people?
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                            • anneapplebaum@journa.hostA anneapplebaum@journa.host

                              Ukraine is not losing. And for Russia, that's a major defeat.
                              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/ukraine-war-momentum-shift/687444/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK339Ii2SkHlPWX0PobpYV_fQ

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                              #14

                              @anneapplebaum Russia must lose.

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