for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone.
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@mntmn because you are fighting with river will flow anyway. It is inevitable in this moment. Point is using it for sunnum bonum. Anything can be good or bad. AI itself replication of human capabilities. Question you should ask is this how is all happening? Where we come from? And interestingly answer was always open still Is. You need to look deeper.
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@mntmn We are not allowed to vibe code at work and I am so happy that my employer forbids it.
Thank you that you are not using llms for your code.
Are you using treesitter with eglot together?
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@mntmn One of the best use cases for LLMs is to produce tools for deterministic automation. One does not have to be irrational about this issue. Follow the example of Torvalds. Stay adult, stay sane and be open-minded. Every person (or moral subject) is responsible for the code they commit or text they publish. If you don't want that responsibility, you pay someone or stay anonymous. That has and will always be the case. You can never be certain about how information was produced.
> deterministic automation
You got me there. Do you mean subtle, but deterministic bugs?
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peace.
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@glitzersachen @mntmn pretty intelligent explanatory and counter argument. I am satisfied with your answer.
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@glitzersachen @mntmn pretty intelligent explanatory and counter argument. I am satisfied with your answer.
> pretty intelligent explanatory and counter argument. I am satisfied with your answer.
It's on the par with "It is inevitable" and "anything can be good or bad".
So, yes, thank you. I thought, you'd like it.
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for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.
@mntmn You have a job, do you?
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@mntmn You have a job, do you?
@pierstoval that question is very easy to answer by looking at my bio for example
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@pierstoval that question is very easy to answer by looking at my bio for example
@mntmn That was a rhetorical question
Just to signify that even though I would agree 100% on the statement because I would prefer to do it exactly like you say it, the issue is that I've been struggling to find a stable job (that pays more than peanuts) for like 2 years now, and big part of the reason why it's so hard is because everyone I meet jumped on the LLM hype train.
And I'm defo not the only one, and it's worse and worse every day with all those layoffs
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@mntmn That was a rhetorical question
Just to signify that even though I would agree 100% on the statement because I would prefer to do it exactly like you say it, the issue is that I've been struggling to find a stable job (that pays more than peanuts) for like 2 years now, and big part of the reason why it's so hard is because everyone I meet jumped on the LLM hype train.
And I'm defo not the only one, and it's worse and worse every day with all those layoffs
@pierstoval ah, i'm very sorry to hear that.
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for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.
@mntmn why do I want to play this toot to "Short Skirt/Long Jacket"
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for whoever needs to hear this: you're not alone. i'm not vibecoding any of the software i write. i'm writing it by hand, but i've leveled up my emacs with eglot/lsp. i'm modernizing my stacks and use languages with excellent compilers. i think about how to do more with less. i'm trying to combine the best human-written libraries and modules and assemble them with minimal boilerplate. i enjoy reading your manuals and references. i believe in robust, secure, human-written software.
@mntmn Some days it certainly feels like all developers around me have lost their collective heads so thank you from the bottom of my heart for this.
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