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  3. Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

    Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

    It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

    Loud is not better.

    https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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    #6

    @randahl

    > Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

    And they grow large enough exactly why? Because people got tired of the best delivery in the world provided by their predecessors?

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

      Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

      It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

      Loud is not better.

      https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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      #7

      @randahl Hopefully this is going to happen everywhere - still not sure how much it takes until the blue voters here in Germany realize this. It isn't that much time left until you won't be able to fix things anymore...

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

        Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

        It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

        Loud is not better.

        https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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        #8

        @randahl
        Same story with populist extremists from both sides.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

          Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

          It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

          Loud is not better.

          https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

          murb@todon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @randahl in the Netherlands cities are typically more left wing, more green, (Berlin and Paris are also more progressive for sure), but am I correct seeing the opposite (M is the 'moderate' party that wanted to work with the extreme right, right?) in Stockholm? Malmö area is even SD territory?

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          • mudasobwa@mastodon.socialM mudasobwa@mastodon.social

            @randahl

            > Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

            And they grow large enough exactly why? Because people got tired of the best delivery in the world provided by their predecessors?

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            #10

            @mudasobwa @randahl

            because a shit sandwich is not improved upon by having a shit sandwich caked in vomit

            this is obvious to most people but some want to learn the hard way

            the idea is to improve our world but we are unfortunately handicapped by idiots who believe in simple solutions to complex problems offered by con artists

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

              Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

              It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

              Loud is not better.

              https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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              #11

              @randahl nazism gets old real quick

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                #12

                @ausgroucho @randahl SD started a couple of days ago already. They’re blaming the election results on Muslim voters. Nothing new from them, of course, since they blame everything on Muslims.

                But all the votes aren’t counted yet. Not that SD will get lots more votes, but there might still be some changes in the number of elected MPs from the parties. Hopefully not anything that will give the current government a majority, but there is still a risk.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @mudasobwa @randahl

                  because a shit sandwich is not improved upon by having a shit sandwich caked in vomit

                  this is obvious to most people but some want to learn the hard way

                  the idea is to improve our world but we are unfortunately handicapped by idiots who believe in simple solutions to complex problems offered by con artists

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                  #13

                  @benroyce

                  > the idea is to improve our world

                  Great idea, keep working on it.

                  @randahl

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                  • mudasobwa@mastodon.socialM mudasobwa@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce

                    > the idea is to improve our world

                    Great idea, keep working on it.

                    @randahl

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                    #14

                    @mudasobwa @randahl

                    i don't know how much of a historian you are, but would you consider the arc of the last 1,000 years to be slow difficult improvement, with backsliding at times, or stasis?

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @mudasobwa @randahl

                      i don't know how much of a historian you are, but would you consider the arc of the last 1,000 years to be slow difficult improvement, with backsliding at times, or stasis?

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                      #15

                      @benroyce

                      I’m quite enough of a historian to tell that this thread was all about so called “democratic” elections that were hardly a thing in the vast majority of the last millenium.

                      Demagoguery about how “we” could have everything improved if not all these idiots with their own opinion is pathetic.

                      @randahl

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                      • murb@todon.nlM murb@todon.nl

                        @randahl in the Netherlands cities are typically more left wing, more green, (Berlin and Paris are also more progressive for sure), but am I correct seeing the opposite (M is the 'moderate' party that wanted to work with the extreme right, right?) in Stockholm? Malmö area is even SD territory?

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                        #16

                        @murb @randahl M did already work with SD for the past four years. But SD didn’t have ministers in the cabinet. Now they have been promised cabinet positions if they win the election.

                        Why people in the cities vote for M is probably because there are more rich people there, and those who think they are rich. House prices in the cities are very high, and many apparently feel that property taxes are a bigger threat than the fall of civilisation.

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                        • mudasobwa@mastodon.socialM mudasobwa@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce

                          I’m quite enough of a historian to tell that this thread was all about so called “democratic” elections that were hardly a thing in the vast majority of the last millenium.

                          Demagoguery about how “we” could have everything improved if not all these idiots with their own opinion is pathetic.

                          @randahl

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                          #17

                          @mudasobwa @randahl

                          well that's a fascinating strawman but my question to you was if you think progress is real or not. by your nonanswer i will assume you think it is real but did not want to concede that point. one stinky bit of cynicism at a time please. try to engage on a point in a conversation rather than wander to another without addressing the first, and then you might find the cognitive coherence to say something useful on these topics

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

                            Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

                            It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

                            Loud is not better.

                            https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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                            #18

                            @randahl ”It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.”

                            This is the basis of ”let them govern and people will see how bad they are”, but that is little comfort after they’ve destroyed society.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @mudasobwa @randahl

                              well that's a fascinating strawman but my question to you was if you think progress is real or not. by your nonanswer i will assume you think it is real but did not want to concede that point. one stinky bit of cynicism at a time please. try to engage on a point in a conversation rather than wander to another without addressing the first, and then you might find the cognitive coherence to say something useful on these topics

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                              #19

                              @benroyce

                              > by your nonanswer i will assume

                              Fantastic! Keep discussing with bugs in your head.

                              > one stinky bit of cynicism at a time please

                              Not granted.

                              > try to engage on a point in a conversation

                              Try to stop telling me how I should behave and maybe then I would start to treat you as someone worth to talk to.

                              > then you might find the cognitive coherence to say something useful on these topics

                              Unfortunately, that’s unlikely would work for you.

                              @randahl

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                              • mudasobwa@mastodon.socialM mudasobwa@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce

                                > by your nonanswer i will assume

                                Fantastic! Keep discussing with bugs in your head.

                                > one stinky bit of cynicism at a time please

                                Not granted.

                                > try to engage on a point in a conversation

                                Try to stop telling me how I should behave and maybe then I would start to treat you as someone worth to talk to.

                                > then you might find the cognitive coherence to say something useful on these topics

                                Unfortunately, that’s unlikely would work for you.

                                @randahl

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                                #20

                                @mudasobwa @randahl

                                "Keep discussing with bugs in your head."

                                i stopped reading here. it is not my belief that you live in my head

                                i asked you a question and you ignored it

                                so are you trolling for whimsy or is this just the nature of your character?

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

                                  Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

                                  It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

                                  Loud is not better.

                                  https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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                                  #21

                                  @randahl At first it looks like good news. But I read, that they lost, because they toned down a bit and now were not extreme enough anymore for parts of their voters?
                                  So it's not really good news.

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                                  • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                    @murb @randahl M did already work with SD for the past four years. But SD didn’t have ministers in the cabinet. Now they have been promised cabinet positions if they win the election.

                                    Why people in the cities vote for M is probably because there are more rich people there, and those who think they are rich. House prices in the cities are very high, and many apparently feel that property taxes are a bigger threat than the fall of civilisation.

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                                    #22

                                    @murb @randahl But both on the region and municipality level, Stockholm has been left-governed the past four years. The Green Party (MP) will also get almost twice the number of seats in the municipal parliament after this election.

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

                                      Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

                                      It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

                                      Loud is not better.

                                      https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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                                      #23

                                      @randahl

                                      In the Netherlands we just lost a year of government with far right Geert Wilders. One year of political infighting and nonsense without any progress and then he pulled the plug…

                                      The far right can only protest and will never deliver, and that is by design… let us keep it that way. Because make no mistake, they are even prepared to break the democratic principles to arrive and stay at power. We have seen what happened when Hitler came to power. Total destruction...

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        Very interesting election result from Sweden where on Sunday, the right wing populists of Sverigedemokraterne lost 3 percentage points reducing their seats in parliament from 73 to 62.

                                        Four years ago, SD grew large enough to become a support party for the right wing government.

                                        It is the same story all over Europe: Every time right wing populists grow large enough to become influential, people realize they cannot deliver.

                                        Loud is not better.

                                        https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/politik/valet-2026-sverige-rostar-se-grafiken/

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                                        #24

                                        @randahl Although I hope you are right, and is as far as it gets, I do feel the need to nuance the optimism a bit.

                                        Swedish politcal culture these days is a bit to found of blocks and tactical voting. Before summer the ”Liberal” party (L) where polling at around 1.5%. This was far below the 4% threshold they needed to pass to stay in parlament.

                                        Now the final results are not in yet, but it looks to me like their last minute +3% gain matches the -3% loss you mention.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @mudasobwa @randahl

                                          "Keep discussing with bugs in your head."

                                          i stopped reading here. it is not my belief that you live in my head

                                          i asked you a question and you ignored it

                                          so are you trolling for whimsy or is this just the nature of your character?

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                                          #25

                                          @benroyce

                                          > i asked you a question and you ignored it

                                          That’s a lie.

                                          @randahl

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