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  3. CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

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  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

    CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

    She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

    We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

    These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

    *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

    Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

    This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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    #25

    @JEmphatically

    For reasons, my partner and I chose a new surname. In a different country.

    I am reasonably sure I could not get a legal copy of the document chain to 'prove' the changes within 3 months.

    I certainly hope #ACLRC have lawyers briefed and ready to challenge the changes. It sounds to me *prima facie* to violate the Charter.

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    • lynnd@cosocial.caL lynnd@cosocial.ca

      @TrueNorthSpice one thing about Ontario is that you do not need photo ID to vote (at least not yet).

      https://www.elections.on.ca/en/voting-in-ontario/id-to-vote-in-provincial-elections.html#accordionIDtovote

      @JEmphatically

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      #26

      @LynnD @JEmphatically

      That's true, but it shouldn't have been that difficult to exchange provincial IDs

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      • nomdeb@mstdn.socialN nomdeb@mstdn.social

        @JEmphatically Very glad I did all the paperwork to get my passport with my married name before the Trump administration nonsense as they're attempting this here in the USA. I'll be sure to NOT let that lapse. My USA naturalization is in my former married name, which I kept after my divorce, so it's a daisy chain of names in my case, as I'm hyphenated with my maiden name and husband's surname now.

        jemphatically@mstdn.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        @nomdeb Alberta's government came up with the idea of "one ID" for all - your driver's licence, health care card, and proof of citizenship. If you don't drive, you can get a generic ID card, but that also must include your health care number and citizenship status.

        So, in effect you can't get any government ID renewed without switching to the one ID card version. You must prove citizenship or the card will be marked as non-citizen, which means you won't be able to access certain programs or vote. It's a diabolical workaround of people's rights. Our premier talks on a weekly basis with the US ambassador to Canada and I can't help but wonder if they don't share strategies.

        CORRECTION: There’s a way around the voting issue. As of today, you can vote WITHOUT using govt issued ID. As of today...

        See the Elections Alberta website and order your mail-in ballot for the easiest way to vote this October. Yay!

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        • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

          CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

          She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

          We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

          These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

          *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

          Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

          This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

          humourmetom@newsie.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #28

          @JEmphatically Sounds suspiciously like the U.S., just like a lot of stuff happening in Alberta these days

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          • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

            CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

            She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

            We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

            These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

            *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

            Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

            This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

            nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            nixanadoo@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #29

            @JEmphatically Y'all need to stop copying our awful bullshit below you. I'm glad you found her certificate!!

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            • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

              CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

              She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

              We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

              These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

              *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

              Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

              This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

              loke@functional.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #30

              @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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              • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                @JEmphatically Y'all need to stop copying our awful bullshit below you. I'm glad you found her certificate!!

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                #31

                @nixanadoo

                Danielle Smith (Premier of Alberta) copies it on purpose. She's not a good faith leader. Not by far.

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                • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                  @nixanadoo

                  Danielle Smith (Premier of Alberta) copies it on purpose. She's not a good faith leader. Not by far.

                  nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @jmcrookston That's as shitty for y'all as it is for us, my sympathies.

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                  • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                    @jmcrookston That's as shitty for y'all as it is for us, my sympathies.

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                    #33

                    @nixanadoo

                    Yeah it's a worldwide problem right now. Looks like humans were living the good life after World War II and didn't realize it. Now we're deviating back to the mean.

                    Anyway she pushes white supremacist stuff up here. I'm just east of her (in Ontario) with someone who's only slightly better. Less white supremacy perhaps but still with all the corruption.

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                    • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                      @nixanadoo

                      Yeah it's a worldwide problem right now. Looks like humans were living the good life after World War II and didn't realize it. Now we're deviating back to the mean.

                      Anyway she pushes white supremacist stuff up here. I'm just east of her (in Ontario) with someone who's only slightly better. Less white supremacy perhaps but still with all the corruption.

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                      #34

                      @jmcrookston There seems to be a multitude of flavours of fascism these days. So many options!

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                      • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                        @jmcrookston There seems to be a multitude of flavours of fascism these days. So many options!

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                        #35

                        @nixanadoo

                        I know. Sometimes I feel just like a kid in a Nazi shop.

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                        • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                          @nixanadoo

                          I know. Sometimes I feel just like a kid in a Nazi shop.

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                          #36

                          @jmcrookston 50/50 laugh/cry

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                          • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

                            @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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                            #37
                            @loke @JEmphatically They do, and I think marriages are also recorded.

                            This is pure deliberate obstructivism.
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                            • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                              CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                              She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                              We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                              These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                              *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                              Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                              This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                              #38

                              @JEmphatically How many of yall are saying "Where the fuck are we, America?

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                              • loke@functional.cafeL loke@functional.cafe

                                @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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                                #39

                                @loke birth, marruage and death records are provincial juristiction. If you got any if those outside Alberta then the Alberta government has no record. Additionally records before WW2 are not complete due to lack of central record keeping at the time. For an elderly woman born before 1945 it is quite possible that a person coujd be well and truly screwed in this situation.

                                Same goes for immigrants from places of conflict or political turmoil. For thousands of Albertans this new unified ID has been a Franz Kafka nightmare.

                                @JEmphatically

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                                  #40

                                  @samk @JEmphatically I’m pretty sure that Canada’s polical and electoral systems are vastly more similar to Australia’s than they are to the US’. In fact, Australia’s bicameral legislature arguably makes it more similar to the US than Canada is.

                                  I really like Australia’s mandatory voting policy, and wish more countries would implement it, but that seems to be the only relevant differentiator here.

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                                  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                    CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                    She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                    We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                    These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                    *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                    Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                    This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                                    #41

                                    @JEmphatically Good luck to you and her both. I am astonished to hear how similar Alberta is to the U.S.A. I mean, I have heard the comparison many times, but this outcome of voter ID laws you are both experiencing is exactly the desired outcome of proposed federal law changes in the U.S.A. We hope that, if they pass, they will be challenged in SCOTUS because states are supposed to adopt their own voting rules.

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                                    • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                      CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                      She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                      We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                      These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                      *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                      Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                      This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

                                      blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #42

                                      @JEmphatically so they’re playing the #MAGA #GOP playbook?

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                                      • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                        CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                        She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                        We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                        These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                        *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                        Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                        This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                                        #43

                                        @JEmphatically
                                        I had thought that this specific type of shite was isolated to the US. Pure misogyny.

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                                        • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                          CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                          She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                          We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                          These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                          *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                          Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                          This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                                          #44

                                          @JEmphatically I am fortunate because my sister does currently have a BC ID card. However, I dread trying to get her another BC ID card in 2028, when her current ID runs out. How do I get a bed bound senior - who has her faculties but a limited capability to sit for long in a wheelchair - a new ID? I expect a photo will have to be taken in their office. They make it so frickin’ difficult. #DisenfranchingSeniors

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