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  • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

    Since this has been shared quite a bit, a quick heads-up: this might be AI slop. I just stumbled upon the image online and reposted it without thinking twice. My bad!

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    #30

    @valere Yeah, some of the lines are weird. It's funny, it's not like this would be particularly hard to draw without AI.

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    • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

      @LunaDragofelis @aria you're right. I came across this image online and reposted it without really thinking twice about it. My bad

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      #31

      @valere @LunaDragofelis @aria this response is best followed up by removing the post ^^

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      • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

        THE INTERNET

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        #32

        @valere I have some duct tape!

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        • aria@awawa.clubA aria@awawa.club
          @valere It's always been like this, if we're honest with ourselves
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          #33
          @aria @valere It was.

          The OSI folks were complaining about it 40 years ago before it ever became popular.

          The majority of the flaws I complain about were glaringly obvious at the design stage.

          But corposcum & fascist sabotage means we're stuck with TCP/IP instead.
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          • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

            @valere @LunaDragofelis @aria this response is best followed up by removing the post ^^

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            #34
            @hsza @aria @valere @LunaDragofelis There is edit capacity that works for images. Why not just use GNU Imp to remake it manually and replace the image?
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            • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
              @aria @valere It was.

              The OSI folks were complaining about it 40 years ago before it ever became popular.

              The majority of the flaws I complain about were glaringly obvious at the design stage.

              But corposcum & fascist sabotage means we're stuck with TCP/IP instead.
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              #35

              @lispi314 @aria @valere pretty sure OSI is younger than 40

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              • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

                THE INTERNET

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                #36

                @valere https://norden.social/@leonid/117502460880374908

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                • tusharhero@mathstodon.xyzT tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz

                  @lispi314 @aria @valere pretty sure OSI is younger than 40

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                  #37

                  @tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz @aria@awawa.club @valere@hostux.social The protocol wars date back to at least the 1980s (we are in 202X).

                  Cyclades is from 1976 at latest.

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                  • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz

                    @tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz @aria@awawa.club @valere@hostux.social The protocol wars date back to at least the 1980s (we are in 202X).

                    Cyclades is from 1976 at latest.

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                    #38

                    @lispi314 @aria @valere I think I misunderstood

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                    • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

                      THE INTERNET

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                      #39

                      @valere #Historian #LongTerm #Preservation senses tingling:

                      Missing metadata:
                      * #DublinCore.Date 😉
                      * DublinCore.Source

                      I assume, someone has a working and complete backup of "The Internet" to restore from? 💾

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                      • tusharhero@mathstodon.xyzT tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz

                        @lispi314 @aria @valere pretty sure OSI is younger than 40

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                        #40

                        @tusharhero @lispi314 @aria @valere

                        You bet wrong. I was running comms from Lancaster to Manchester, Reading and London over X.25 (one of the Orange Book protocols) in 1986. The Orange Book was then ten years old, so OSI is at least fifty years old.

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                        • andipopp@chaos.socialA andipopp@chaos.social

                          @valere That one little block on the bottom right is still standing 😄

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                          #41

                          @AndiPopp @valere

                          My thoughts exactly😆

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                          • frawst@fedi.fraw.stF frawst@fedi.fraw.st

                            @valere@hostux.social ...wait this is AI-generated isn't it

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                            #42

                            @frawst @valere

                            Please no😭

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                            • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

                              Since this has been shared quite a bit, a quick heads-up: this might be AI slop. I just stumbled upon the image online and reposted it without thinking twice. My bad!

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                              #43

                              @valere I've seen these shapes before in another toot. Obviously based on 'the internet depends on one random guy' meme. But the one I saw had labels. As I recall the collapsed section of the Internet on the left is the bit that is vibe coded. Perhaps someone can find it?

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                              • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz

                                @tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz @aria@awawa.club @valere@hostux.social The protocol wars date back to at least the 1980s (we are in 202X).

                                Cyclades is from 1976 at latest.

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                                #44

                                @lispi314 @aria @valere @tusharhero

                                The Cyclades project started in 1971.

                                Running from 1973 with four nodes in France until 1976 with 20 nodes in three countries.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYCLADES

                                Also check the documentary "Viva Cyclades - The french engineers who didn't invent the internet" available to rent online: https://www.khorafilm.com/en/movie/viva-cyclades-the-french-engineers-who-didnt-invent-the-internet/

                                #Internet #history

                                (Apparently, X.25 wg view it as a menace)

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                                • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

                                  THE INTERNET

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                                  #45

                                  @valere this is the internet

                                  https://youtu.be/Vywf48Dhyns?si=ObHVZhhFt-hCNrBj

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                                  • valere@hostux.socialV valere@hostux.social

                                    THE INTERNET

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                                    #46

                                    @valere
                                    what the heck happend with PHP!?
                                    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/10/vulnerability-apocalypse-and-why-we-should-fund-open-source

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                                    • gvlx@masto.ptG gvlx@masto.pt

                                      @lispi314 @aria @valere @tusharhero

                                      The Cyclades project started in 1971.

                                      Running from 1973 with four nodes in France until 1976 with 20 nodes in three countries.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYCLADES

                                      Also check the documentary "Viva Cyclades - The french engineers who didn't invent the internet" available to rent online: https://www.khorafilm.com/en/movie/viva-cyclades-the-french-engineers-who-didnt-invent-the-internet/

                                      #Internet #history

                                      (Apparently, X.25 wg view it as a menace)

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                                      #47
                                      @gvlx @aria @valere @tusharhero It seems impossible to find now and the vimeo option doesn't allow sale/renting anymore.

                                      edit: Apparently it's because of Vimeo shutting down that part of its service.

                                      Do you have a magnet link?
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                                      • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
                                        @hsza @aria @valere @LunaDragofelis There is edit capacity that works for images. Why not just use GNU Imp to remake it manually and replace the image?
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                                        #48

                                        @lispi314 @aria @LunaDragofelis there is not; @valere is using Mastodon, a software allergic to good things and crippled by design

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                                        • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                          @lispi314 @aria @LunaDragofelis there is not; @valere is using Mastodon, a software allergic to good things and crippled by design

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                                          #49
                                          @hsza @aria @valere @LunaDragofelis Ah. Pity that.
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