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When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway.

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  • hannorein@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://sueden.social/@me_/116715832898810488

    When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway. Like chlorinated chicken, hormone-treated beef, large pickup trucks, and easily available firearms.

    rndanger@infosec.exchangeR michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM sdm@social.taker.frS thm76@hachyderm.ioT photovince@mastodon.socialP 5 Replies Last reply
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    • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

      RE: https://sueden.social/@me_/116715832898810488

      When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway. Like chlorinated chicken, hormone-treated beef, large pickup trucks, and easily available firearms.

      rndanger@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @hannorein
      Now if only Europe could make their own chlorinated chicken...

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      • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

        RE: https://sueden.social/@me_/116715832898810488

        When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway. Like chlorinated chicken, hormone-treated beef, large pickup trucks, and easily available firearms.

        michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @hannorein

        I am jealous of countries that prohibit cars like the "Cybertruck".

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        • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

          RE: https://sueden.social/@me_/116715832898810488

          When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway. Like chlorinated chicken, hormone-treated beef, large pickup trucks, and easily available firearms.

          sdm@social.taker.frS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @hannorein i was just looking to see if i could "turn off" ai but i realised the instructions were given by an usamerican

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          • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

            @hannorein
            Now if only Europe could make their own chlorinated chicken...

            hannorein@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @RnDanger sovereign chlorinated chicken!

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            • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

              @RnDanger sovereign chlorinated chicken!

              rndanger@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @hannorein
              You're a true patriot 🇪🇺

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              • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

                RE: https://sueden.social/@me_/116715832898810488

                When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway. Like chlorinated chicken, hormone-treated beef, large pickup trucks, and easily available firearms.

                thm76@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @hannorein @me_ According to Apple (https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-delayed-in-eu-for-ios-27-and-ipados-27/) this is because they would need to give other apps the same access to user's data, and wouldn't be able to ensure privacy. Would love to hear the other side's arguments, but reading that press release so far I'm with Apple.
                I mean, maybe the point is to let the user decide (if they want another app to have all that access), but that honestly sounds scary. 3rd parties would get access to so much that they can't get right now (think messages, for instance), and I trust OpenAI et al much less than Apple that they would protect that data

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                • thm76@hachyderm.ioT thm76@hachyderm.io

                  @hannorein @me_ According to Apple (https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-delayed-in-eu-for-ios-27-and-ipados-27/) this is because they would need to give other apps the same access to user's data, and wouldn't be able to ensure privacy. Would love to hear the other side's arguments, but reading that press release so far I'm with Apple.
                  I mean, maybe the point is to let the user decide (if they want another app to have all that access), but that honestly sounds scary. 3rd parties would get access to so much that they can't get right now (think messages, for instance), and I trust OpenAI et al much less than Apple that they would protect that data

                  hannorein@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @thm76 @me_ But that means there would be practically no competition whatsoever because two companies (Apple and Google) completely own the market. I'd rather not have a feature that is offered by a monopoly. The other reasonable alternative would be for Apple (and Google) to be broken up into separate hardware, software, cloud, and AI businesses.

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                  • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://sueden.social/@me_/116715832898810488

                    When something is not available in the EU you probably don't want it anyway. Like chlorinated chicken, hormone-treated beef, large pickup trucks, and easily available firearms.

                    photovince@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @hannorein With some regulator bashing to top ot off…

                    “… said Craig Federighi, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "Our hope is to eventually bring Siri AI to the EU, and we will continue to engage with EU regulators on a path forward. However, their refusal to engage constructively…”

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                    • photovince@mastodon.socialP photovince@mastodon.social

                      @hannorein With some regulator bashing to top ot off…

                      “… said Craig Federighi, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "Our hope is to eventually bring Siri AI to the EU, and we will continue to engage with EU regulators on a path forward. However, their refusal to engage constructively…”

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                      #10

                      @photovince "Our hope is to eventually remove seatbelts from our cars in the EU, and we will continue to engage with EU regulators on a path forward. However, their refusal to engage constructively…"

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                      • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

                        @thm76 @me_ But that means there would be practically no competition whatsoever because two companies (Apple and Google) completely own the market. I'd rather not have a feature that is offered by a monopoly. The other reasonable alternative would be for Apple (and Google) to be broken up into separate hardware, software, cloud, and AI businesses.

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                        @hannorein @me_ Apple might need granular permissions for all that personal data that the AI features can access, so users can control what apps, including Siri AI, have access to. Maybe something similar to the Health permissions, where you can easily choose which categories of data to share

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                        • hannorein@mastodon.socialH hannorein@mastodon.social

                          @thm76 @me_ But that means there would be practically no competition whatsoever because two companies (Apple and Google) completely own the market. I'd rather not have a feature that is offered by a monopoly. The other reasonable alternative would be for Apple (and Google) to be broken up into separate hardware, software, cloud, and AI businesses.

                          rndanger@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @hannorein @thm76 @me_
                          "The other reasonable alternative would be for Apple (and Google) to be broken up into separate hardware, software, cloud, and AI businesses."

                          I'm pretty sure that's the answer

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                          • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                            @hannorein

                            I am jealous of countries that prohibit cars like the "Cybertruck".

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                            @michael_w_busch @hannorein it's not prohibited in EU, you just need a truck driving license as its total mass is above 3,5 t

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