Very good post by Johanne Courtright.
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Very good post by Johanne Courtright. Her conclusion:
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Elementor had a good run. It solved a real problem when WordPress needed it. But the platform caught up. The page builder era is ending.I’m building with Gutenberg. Clean markup. Semantic HTML. Global styles that actually work. Sites clients can edit without calling me. Sites that don’t depend on a plugin to exist.
---Via @bph, Gutenberg Times Newsletter #356
#WordPress #Pagebuilder #Elementor #Gutenberg
https://groundworx.dev/resources/why-i-choose-gutenberg-over-elementor/
@bph @pmmueller
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Very good post by Johanne Courtright. Her conclusion:
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Elementor had a good run. It solved a real problem when WordPress needed it. But the platform caught up. The page builder era is ending.I’m building with Gutenberg. Clean markup. Semantic HTML. Global styles that actually work. Sites clients can edit without calling me. Sites that don’t depend on a plugin to exist.
---Via @bph, Gutenberg Times Newsletter #356
#WordPress #Pagebuilder #Elementor #Gutenberg
https://groundworx.dev/resources/why-i-choose-gutenberg-over-elementor/
@pmmueller @bph I agree. Gutenberg works - I've talked about it during WordPress Accessibility Day 2024.
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@pmmueller @bph I agree. Gutenberg works - I've talked about it during WordPress Accessibility Day 2024.
@elettrona @pmmueller Elena - was this during a a discussion or a recorded talk? I am sorry I missed Accessibility Day..
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@elettrona @pmmueller Elena - was this during a a discussion or a recorded talk? I am sorry I missed Accessibility Day..
@bph @pmmueller It was a remote event, I talked from home. And the recording is here. It's me talking, and the lady web designer who was my eyes then. In a while I'll give you the link to the complete experience (written) in my own space. https://wpaccessibility.day/2024/sessions/same-editor-same-language/
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@elettrona @pmmueller Elena - was this during a a discussion or a recorded talk? I am sorry I missed Accessibility Day..
@bph @pmmueller This one instead is my own WordPress experience with multilingual, using Gutenberg and Full Site Editing. Gutenberg. But now I'm going to dismiss it soon as it's too complex to take care of - especially the search engine. https://plusbrothers.net/multilingual-wordpress-gutenberg-experience/
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Very good post by Johanne Courtright. Her conclusion:
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Elementor had a good run. It solved a real problem when WordPress needed it. But the platform caught up. The page builder era is ending.I’m building with Gutenberg. Clean markup. Semantic HTML. Global styles that actually work. Sites clients can edit without calling me. Sites that don’t depend on a plugin to exist.
---Via @bph, Gutenberg Times Newsletter #356
#WordPress #Pagebuilder #Elementor #Gutenberg
https://groundworx.dev/resources/why-i-choose-gutenberg-over-elementor/
@pmmueller @bph To be honest, I don't agree with that. First of all: yes, I love Gutenberg and I now prefer to build pages with it. I am now familiar with around 30 page builders. Each one has its justification for existence. Elementor too. I don't think much (or rather nothing at all) of drawing a kind of comparison here in terms of Gutenberg. It leads nowhere. Page builders are and will continue to be part of the diversity of WordPress. For good reason.
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@pmmueller @bph To be honest, I don't agree with that. First of all: yes, I love Gutenberg and I now prefer to build pages with it. I am now familiar with around 30 page builders. Each one has its justification for existence. Elementor too. I don't think much (or rather nothing at all) of drawing a kind of comparison here in terms of Gutenberg. It leads nowhere. Page builders are and will continue to be part of the diversity of WordPress. For good reason.
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@pmmueller @bph To be honest, I don't agree with that. First of all: yes, I love Gutenberg and I now prefer to build pages with it. I am now familiar with around 30 page builders. Each one has its justification for existence. Elementor too. I don't think much (or rather nothing at all) of drawing a kind of comparison here in terms of Gutenberg. It leads nowhere. Page builders are and will continue to be part of the diversity of WordPress. For good reason.
@threadi @pmmueller @bph Very opinionated, but I agree in general. Maybe to lenient in terms of Gutenbergs Basic styles. "Minimal styling out of the box. […] No inline styles forced on you. No specificity wars." naah – not really. Gutenberg still has way to much base styles for buttons, rounded images, which we have to ignore or remove manually.
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@pmmueller @bph To be honest, I don't agree with that. First of all: yes, I love Gutenberg and I now prefer to build pages with it. I am now familiar with around 30 page builders. Each one has its justification for existence. Elementor too. I don't think much (or rather nothing at all) of drawing a kind of comparison here in terms of Gutenberg. It leads nowhere. Page builders are and will continue to be part of the diversity of WordPress. For good reason.
@threadi @bph
I first saw Elementor in 2016 or so, and I loved it so much that I even made video courses about it.But around 2020 that changed, and in 2026 to me the question is "Do you really need a pagebuilder for your site?" and especially for beginners the answer often is "No".
The post's conclusion sums up my personal experience pretty well: "Elementor had a good run. It solved a real problem ... but the platform caught up".
But of course there are sites where pagebuilders add value.
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@threadi @pmmueller @bph Very opinionated, but I agree in general. Maybe to lenient in terms of Gutenbergs Basic styles. "Minimal styling out of the box. […] No inline styles forced on you. No specificity wars." naah – not really. Gutenberg still has way to much base styles for buttons, rounded images, which we have to ignore or remove manually.
@jonas_hellwig @threadi @bph
Yes, you're right. At precisely those sentencs I thought, well, that's going a bit too far ...But I agreed with most things in the post, and I liked the conclusion (see above).
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Btw, I rediscovered your blog recently in my feed reader and wanted to thank you for all the high quality posts in there. Cheers
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