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  3. Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

    Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

    Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

    https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

    mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM I madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM bigfood@social.tchncs.deB jschwart@mas.toJ 9 Replies Last reply
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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

      Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

      Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

      https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

      mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mihamarkic@mastodon.social
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      #2

      @randahl can they actually trace it, though? I wouldn't be happy if they could if I had one

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

        Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

        Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

        https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

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        ivntl@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @randahl I’m an American living in Moscow (my wife is Russian). There are SO MANY ways to get American products in the country. It’s silliness or plain hubris to anticipate otherwise.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

          Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

          Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

          https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

          madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
          madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @randahl

          Out of the box they should be able to see the IP address where any requests for firmware upgrades etc. comes from, yes.

          However, anyone operating in a questionable environment would almost certainly throw a VPN connection in front of the equipment, and in that case tracing the origins may rely on tactics that could land Ubiquiti in hot water with other - legal - customers.

          That being said, there sure seems to be a lot of shady shit going on with regards to selling and shipping Ubiquiti equipment to sanctioned buyers, if the article you linked is correct (and I have no reason to believe it is not).

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          • madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.net

            @randahl

            Out of the box they should be able to see the IP address where any requests for firmware upgrades etc. comes from, yes.

            However, anyone operating in a questionable environment would almost certainly throw a VPN connection in front of the equipment, and in that case tracing the origins may rely on tactics that could land Ubiquiti in hot water with other - legal - customers.

            That being said, there sure seems to be a lot of shady shit going on with regards to selling and shipping Ubiquiti equipment to sanctioned buyers, if the article you linked is correct (and I have no reason to believe it is not).

            randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
            randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @madsenandersc if you shut down sales in Russia, and suddenly your sales in Russia’s neighboring countries increase significantly, a responsible company would investigate why that increase happened.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              @madsenandersc if you shut down sales in Russia, and suddenly your sales in Russia’s neighboring countries increase significantly, a responsible company would investigate why that increase happened.

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              madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @randahl

              Oh, for sure - like I said, there seems to be plenty of shady stuff going on, my main point was more to the question about tracking the use online.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

                Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

                Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

                https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

                bigfood@social.tchncs.deB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @randahl
                Why?
                As always, money.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

                  Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

                  Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

                  https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

                  jschwart@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @randahl these products being online does not imply things can be tracked. Various Ubiquiti models can be flashed with custom firmware, notably OpenWrt.

                  Only if they would backdoor the products and prevent users from installing their own firmware (which is ethically questionable) they could trace them everywhere.

                  They indeed could and should track sales as you mention, but that's not due to their online nature.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

                    Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

                    Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

                    https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

                    malicethegray@cyberpunk.lolM This user is from outside of this forum
                    malicethegray@cyberpunk.lolM This user is from outside of this forum
                    malicethegray@cyberpunk.lol
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                    #9

                    @randahl telling the truth about the company is a violation of company guidelines

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

                      Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

                      Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

                      https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

                      jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @randahl They haven’t had enough bad press yet. I find that big US companies don’t do the right thing unless they are faced with public embarrassment. Complaints on their own forum will do nothing—people should expose them to the media.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

                        Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

                        Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

                        https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

                        simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @randahl

                        There are very few reasons why Ubiquity wouldn't wish to stop the illegal trade to Russia.

                        The ryange from they don't care, to they have a tacit arrangement with the USG to continue supplying.

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Videos prove, the Russian army stays online in Ukraine using network equipment from American company Ubiquiti.

                          Worried customers have been discussing this in Ubiquiti’s online forums, but threads have been shut down for “violating community guidelines”.

                          Many companies see their products sold to Russia, but Ubiquiti products are actually online, which means Ubiquiti could trace the illegal use and intervene — so why don’t they?

                          https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/

                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
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                          #12

                          @randahl
                          Because they are only interested in Profit.
                          See USA Companies 1939 to 1942 in Germany and Italy.
                          UK entered the War September 1939 because Poland was invaded. Though NAZI aggression started 1933. See Sudatenland, Czech, Austria. Italy in Africa, Japan in Manchuria.
                          Or IBM.
                          Plenty Western companies still active in Russia.

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