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  3. One of the biggest questions I get at Drop-In Time at the library (besides "what is taking up all my cloud storage??) is how to disable or avoid intrusive AI that shows up where people don't want it.

One of the biggest questions I get at Drop-In Time at the library (besides "what is taking up all my cloud storage??) is how to disable or avoid intrusive AI that shows up where people don't want it.

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  • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

    @gcvsa Yeah this is generally not a Linux crowd but I will forward it as an option. If there is a Linux distro that is easy/possible to install on old Macs (with instructions) that is what I am looking for, personally.

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    #28
    @jessamyn @gcvsa I’m liking @elementary on my 2015 MacBook Pro. I’ve had a few adaptation issues, but the trackpad behavior and gestures are close enough to what I’m used to that it doesn’t feel as foreign as, say, Linux Mint.
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    • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

      RE: https://mastodonapp.uk/@taoish/116884161402249680

      One of the biggest questions I get at Drop-In Time at the library (besides "what is taking up all my cloud storage??) is how to disable or avoid intrusive AI that shows up where people don't want it. I'm going to make a handout that explains how to do some of the basic AI-removal or AI-avoidance things.

      Would appreciate links which give simple steps to do this for the most-used (Siri, Alexa, Gemini, Copilot, Firefox's AI nonsense &c.) so I can collate and synthesize. Thanks!

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      #29

      @jessamyn You, madam, are a hero. And long live librarians!

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      • fedward@distraction.partyF fedward@distraction.party
        @jessamyn @gcvsa I’m liking @elementary on my 2015 MacBook Pro. I’ve had a few adaptation issues, but the trackpad behavior and gestures are close enough to what I’m used to that it doesn’t feel as foreign as, say, Linux Mint.
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        #30

        @fedward @jessamyn @elementary I haven't used elementary since 0.4, and at that time, it was OK, but maybe still a little rough around the edges. I'm sure it's improved since then.

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        • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

          RE: https://mastodonapp.uk/@taoish/116884161402249680

          One of the biggest questions I get at Drop-In Time at the library (besides "what is taking up all my cloud storage??) is how to disable or avoid intrusive AI that shows up where people don't want it. I'm going to make a handout that explains how to do some of the basic AI-removal or AI-avoidance things.

          Would appreciate links which give simple steps to do this for the most-used (Siri, Alexa, Gemini, Copilot, Firefox's AI nonsense &c.) so I can collate and synthesize. Thanks!

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          #31

          @jessamyn one suggestion is not to use Chrome, which is just loaded with "AI" sea lions. But the thing is just everywhere; I don't think that's a realistic suggestion unfortunately.

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          • F firebreathingduck@social.vivaldi.net

            @jessamyn

            DuckDuckGo search engine offers AI summaries by default 🤬 , but if you set up a custom search engine in your browser https://noai.duckduckgo.com?q=%s it won't use AI at all.

            The Vivaldi web browser doesn't use AI, though I think the default search engine is Google.

            Good luck.

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            #32

            @firebreathingduck @jessamyn I installed Vivaldi on my Win11 machine at work just yesterday. Happy to report the default SE was StartPage.

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            • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

              RE: https://mastodonapp.uk/@taoish/116884161402249680

              One of the biggest questions I get at Drop-In Time at the library (besides "what is taking up all my cloud storage??) is how to disable or avoid intrusive AI that shows up where people don't want it. I'm going to make a handout that explains how to do some of the basic AI-removal or AI-avoidance things.

              Would appreciate links which give simple steps to do this for the most-used (Siri, Alexa, Gemini, Copilot, Firefox's AI nonsense &c.) so I can collate and synthesize. Thanks!

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              #33

              I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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              • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                #34

                @jessamyn https://tenbluelinks.org/ if they'd like to still use google search

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                • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                  I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                  #35

                  @jessamyn this just popped on my timeline, so thank you for taking the time to put this together 🙏
                  Does DuckDuckGo's no-ai page merit a mention? https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

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                  • palleas@mastodon.socialP palleas@mastodon.social

                    @jessamyn this just popped on my timeline, so thank you for taking the time to put this together 🙏
                    Does DuckDuckGo's no-ai page merit a mention? https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

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                    #36

                    @Palleas Yes it does, thank you!

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                    • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                      I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                      #37

                      @jessamyn
                      MS Edge?

                      Last time Ars updated, you had to turn off both Copilot, and the then-revealed sidebar button, in order to get the Edge main menu button to appear in the corner, like it should do.
                      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/what-i-do-to-clean-up-a-clean-install-of-windows-11-23h2-and-edge/

                      I don't remember having to turn off the sidebar last week though, only Copilot.

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                      • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                        I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                        #38

                        @jessamyn
                        I can’t help but sense irony in your using Google docs for distribution…

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                        • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                          @Palleas Yes it does, thank you!

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                          #39

                          @jessamyn @Palleas you can set that to be default search engine

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                          • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

                            @jessamyn
                            I can’t help but sense irony in your using Google docs for distribution…

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                            #40

                            @cynblogger @jessamyn pastebin?

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                            • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                              I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                              #41

                              @jessamyn Firefox finally has their AI crud behind a single off switch now, that should get a mention.

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                              • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                                I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                                https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                                #42

                                @jessamyn The irony of using a Google doc, a service loaded with AI, to list how to remove AI is in many ways genius - it's teaching AI the answer when folk ask how to strip it away

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                                • ravenonthill@mastodon.socialR ravenonthill@mastodon.social

                                  @jessamyn one suggestion is not to use Chrome, which is just loaded with "AI" sea lions. But the thing is just everywhere; I don't think that's a realistic suggestion unfortunately.

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                                  @ravenonthill @jessamyn You use Android phone then there is no escape. Whatever you do.
                                  If it's root-able get Graphene or another OS if not just take it in as you can not avoid it at all with all your tricks etc.
                                  On PC I'm lucky I use an old Intell OSX, as for Windows users...
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                                  • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                                    I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                                    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                                    #44

                                    @jessamyn

                                    Thank you for this!

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                                    • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                                      RE: https://mastodonapp.uk/@taoish/116884161402249680

                                      One of the biggest questions I get at Drop-In Time at the library (besides "what is taking up all my cloud storage??) is how to disable or avoid intrusive AI that shows up where people don't want it. I'm going to make a handout that explains how to do some of the basic AI-removal or AI-avoidance things.

                                      Would appreciate links which give simple steps to do this for the most-used (Siri, Alexa, Gemini, Copilot, Firefox's AI nonsense &c.) so I can collate and synthesize. Thanks!

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                                      #45

                                      @jessamyn BTW, Mastodon shows "Post unavailable" - just in case something was supposed to be quoted here.

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                                      • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                                        I have consolidated many of these suggestions into a document with a few other links. Anything major that I am missing? This is mostly for the types of users I interact with (mainly older adults) so I did not include things like Slack and I'm not sure about things I don't use much like Outlook or Facebook. Other suggestions for links about removing AI geared towards not-very-technical people?

                                        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nYLmQLYZy_Mg-Dh6iME6R61Jjh4L6sRrw1v2dLXs9aE/edit?usp=sharing

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                                        #46

                                        @jessamyn this is a tangent if you'll forgive, but: would it be useful to have a short link service solely dedicated to instructional content? Like (fake dream URL as example) how.to/remove-ai

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                                        • murtaugh@mastodon.socialM murtaugh@mastodon.social

                                          @jessamyn this is a tangent if you'll forgive, but: would it be useful to have a short link service solely dedicated to instructional content? Like (fake dream URL as example) how.to/remove-ai

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                                          #47

                                          @murtaugh I love that as an idea.

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