"But we do know from Secretary #Rubio that #Netanyahu decided to strike #Iran.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@tobie1 yes. Trump chose to go along with netanyahu, because trump is stupid. Which what van hollen is saying

What the hell is wrong with you. Are you a troll?

[tobie1@mastodon.social]

@benroyce What does "go along" mean? Foreign leaders make requests to American Presidents all the time. This is not unique to any one country. And Presidents decide with due deliberation whether a request is worth honoring or not. When we don't like those decisions, we blame the President for them. Chris Van Hollen could have done this. Instead he chose to fan the flames of the conspiracy theory that a foreign country is dictating the policy of the US. That's an incendiary statement IMO.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@tobie1

Ok i think youre a moron or a troll. He's calling the president stupid. He's blaming trump. You have issues

[tobie1@mastodon.social]

@benroyce We disagree. That is fine. Reasonable people can have different opinions. I won't call you a moron because I don't respond to people that way.

[tagyourtoe@mastodon.social]

@tobie1

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@tobie1 we don't disagree. what you're saying is embarrassingly stupid

[starluna@mastodon.social]

@benroyce I'm curious what the end game is supposed to be for Israel?

[hasani@my-spaces.social]

@tobie1 @benroyce

Netanyahu is good friends with the Kushner family due to Charles Kushner's ties to AIPAC. So much of a donor that Netanyahu would often stay at the Kushner family home.

MBS sees that the only way for the US to attack Iran (their sworn enemy. Sunni vs Shia) is through Trump. Going through Jared Kushner is the quickest way with a $2 billion "investment" to Jared.

https://stljewishlight.org/world-news/when-netanyahu-slept-at-the-kushners-and-other-media-tales-of-trumps-jewish-confidantes/

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@starluna regime change. How, i don't know. For the usa, or rather trump? Whatever distracts from the epstein files

[starluna@mastodon.social]

@benroyce With no guarantee about who leads the new regime?

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@starluna i dont know. You either believe mossad is playing 9d chess or you believe they're just as "start shooting we'll figure it out later" as the americans

[hasani@my-spaces.social]

@tobie1 @benroyce Add in a $400 million plane from Qatar and you see where this is going.

These countries can't take on Iran by themselves so they finally found someone corrupt enough to take the bribes.

This war with Iran has been brewing for a long time and it has *nothing* to do with the US.

And since the US and Israel unexpectedly attacked Iran *during negotiations*, Iran is crashing out and attacking anyone who has anything to do with America in the Middle East

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@hasani @tobie1

Yup

It's all graft and corruption. The USA is destroyed by plutocracy

[hasani@my-spaces.social]

@tobie1 @benroyce So yeah.. foreign countries are dictating foreign policy for the US.

[starluna@mastodon.social]

@benroyce The latter feels more likely. Especially given Netanyahu's desire to stay out of prison.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@hasani @tobie1 well i knew the usa was in decline but i guess we're going to speedrun it

[tobie1@mastodon.social]

@hasani @benroyce I don't disagree that the Kushners (Charles and Jared) were pushing for a war with Iran. Public office for all the members of this (mal)administration seems to mean one thing only: grift. It's sickening.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@tobie1 @hasani

right. they are corrupt. which makes them to blame

so what they hell was that comment of yours above?

[hasani@my-spaces.social]

@tobie1 @benroyce Add in the zionists that AIPAC has been cultivating for decades and mix in some christian "end times" weirdos and this war is what you get.

Almost inevitable when you think about it. Everyone is using each other and its already going badly.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @hasani @tobie1 Logarithmic.