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  • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

    @bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Theoretically you can first confirm the loop with the device (that's the qr code stuff) and then use its camera to scan the scan code on your id document. Then this could be looked up in the standard way (probably varying degrees of access to your government's API) to get "temporary" access to your ID info. Then it can do whatever comparing it needs via face scan, which doesn't work well, to validate the person and device together....

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    #78

    @bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Then you issue certificates to the device.

    There may be some way that they could to the talking to the government with the device but I don't know how they'd establish firm enough trust. That's one reason why they think we shouldn't be able to run our own stuff on our own devices.

    At any rate, once the cert lives on the device you can just let the id info on the server get discarded with memory/session cleanup. WE still have to trust that they're doing so.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

      @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

      W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

      No further comment necessary.

      Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

      #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

      stereo@freiburg.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #79

      @_elena

      haha, thats entertaining to watch. want an invite to freiburg.social? show me your selfpainted passport. only valid in rainbow colors and if you have kids, its a must they have created it for you ;)))

      @EUCommission

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

        No further comment necessary.

        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

        moskitokoenig@dizl.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #80

        @_elena @EUCommission What a freaking clown show 🤡

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

          @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

          W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

          No further comment necessary.

          Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

          #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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          #81

          @_elena What does the 'W' stand for? World? West? Wuppertal? (train logo!)

          @EUCommission

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

            @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

            W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

            No further comment necessary.

            Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

            #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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            #82

            @_elena @EUCommission Es scheint als wäre WSocial für die EU-Kommission ein Fortschritt, während hier bei Mastodon niemand nachvollziehen kann, warum die nicht einfach Allin gehen und konsequent das Fediverse pushen. Wahrscheinlich weil der Step für die X- und Bluesky-Menschen zu groß erscheint.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

              @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

              W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

              No further comment necessary.

              Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

              #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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              #83

              @_elena @EUCommission So, if you don't have an Android(like) OS on your phone/tablet/TV or iOS on your phone/iPad OS on your tablet you cannot get a Wsocial account?

              But you should be able to use a Eurosky account interact with to Wsocial users, right? As both use the AT Protocol which includes federation functionality.

              And Eurosky only requires an email address to register an account.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                No further comment necessary.

                Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                #84

                @_elena @EUCommission lol, fighting against 🇺🇸 age verification or identity verification, but also asking passport & id verification for Europe apps at the name of decentralization. 🤣🤣😅😅

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                • fembot@mstdn.socialF fembot@mstdn.social

                  @_elena What does the 'W' stand for? World? West? Wuppertal? (train logo!)

                  @EUCommission

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                  #85

                  @fembot @_elena @EUCommission Wazzock?

                  Willy?

                  Wanker?

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                    @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                    W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                    No further comment necessary.

                    Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                    #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

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                    #86

                    @_elena @EUCommission W referred as wicked social?

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                    • cubeexplorer@mastodon.socialC cubeexplorer@mastodon.social

                      @EUCommission @_elena after reading about this I just opened a Eurosky "MU" account instead. Will stay on Mastodon but may migrate my BlueSky account to MU: https://mu.social/profile/daveeveritt.eurosky.social

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                      #87

                      @cubeExplorer @EUCommission @_elena And in theory you should be able to use a Eurosky account and MU to connect and interact with Wsocial users?

                      Both use the AT Protocol.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        #WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

                        @EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

                        W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

                        No further comment necessary.

                        Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

                        #BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                        chrispy@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #88

                        @_elena @EUCommission
                        > "No further comment necessary."

                        The irony stings: 'Digital Sovereignty' tied to foreign app stores, and 'security' meaning surveillance.
                        👉 These contradictions do demand deeper explanation.

                        #wsocial #digitalsovereignity #EU #surveillance

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