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  3. I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement.

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  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

    But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

    I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

    patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @urlyman bluesky always feels like a live TED talk crowd to me somehow. often quite unquestioning of any old bullshit spouted if presented in a shiny slick packaged article or blog post...

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    • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

      @urlyman bluesky always feels like a live TED talk crowd to me somehow. often quite unquestioning of any old bullshit spouted if presented in a shiny slick packaged article or blog post...

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      #4

      @patrick_h_lauke that’s a neat encapsulation of how it seemed to me

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      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

        …Also, if memory serves me right, I have never encountered a conventionally climate sceptic person on here.

        There are lots of green growthers but I’ve never had an exchange with someone who doubts basic climate science.

        I mention this because I’m surprised that Katharine got the degree of push back on Mastodon that she graphed just over a year ago, but then I’m a man so I don’t have to put up with the many reply guys there are here

        https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/113787805278562159

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        #5

        …Fwiw it really helped that in mid 2023 when I could take no more of what Twitter had become, BlueSky was still closed, and if I was to pursue a Twitter-like experience, Mastodon was the only place to do it (just 7 years after toying with it but not investing in it properly).

        Given that Jack Dorsey was behind the genesis of BlueSky I was not very surprised to experience last year what it seems to be. Not for me. After several hundred posts, I deleted my account

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        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

          …Fwiw it really helped that in mid 2023 when I could take no more of what Twitter had become, BlueSky was still closed, and if I was to pursue a Twitter-like experience, Mastodon was the only place to do it (just 7 years after toying with it but not investing in it properly).

          Given that Jack Dorsey was behind the genesis of BlueSky I was not very surprised to experience last year what it seems to be. Not for me. After several hundred posts, I deleted my account

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          #6

          …I just don’t want to be in a place that overtly fluffs people’s egos. I like that Mastodon is human. It puts a dampener on my bullshit but does it with kindness and good humour 🙂

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          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

            …I just don’t want to be in a place that overtly fluffs people’s egos. I like that Mastodon is human. It puts a dampener on my bullshit but does it with kindness and good humour 🙂

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            #7

            …It’s not just the interactions. It’s also the ambience and the pace. Just healthier

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            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

              I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

              But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

              I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

              dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @urlyman That was my experience too. I think the invite only thing was a contributor.

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              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

                minimac@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @urlyman BlueSky is a terrible investment choice.

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                • dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD dnkboston@apobangpo.space

                  @urlyman That was my experience too. I think the invite only thing was a contributor.

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                  #10

                  @dnkboston for sure

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                  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                    I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                    But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                    I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

                    t_var_s@phpc.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @urlyman @KimSJ Mastodon is just chronological feeds which doesn't work for people used to going viral to pay their bills. It's kind of a privilege to be able to just chill on masto.

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                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                      …It’s not just the interactions. It’s also the ambience and the pace. Just healthier

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                      #12

                      …There was a while in 2024 where I was frustrated that Mastodon didn’t have the breadth of politics that Twitter in its prime had, and thought that that was a bit unhealthy. I did enjoy the jostling with very different views.

                      So when BlueSky opened up I thought I’d have a look. But just as there are ideas we should embrace (e.g. degrowth) but our current culture *cannot* select, people who like to be among the ‘somebodies’ don’t want to be here. It’s just not for them.

                      Note that…

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                      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                        …There was a while in 2024 where I was frustrated that Mastodon didn’t have the breadth of politics that Twitter in its prime had, and thought that that was a bit unhealthy. I did enjoy the jostling with very different views.

                        So when BlueSky opened up I thought I’d have a look. But just as there are ideas we should embrace (e.g. degrowth) but our current culture *cannot* select, people who like to be among the ‘somebodies’ don’t want to be here. It’s just not for them.

                        Note that…

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                        #13

                        …I’m *not* saying that everyone on BlueSky is egotistical. I’m just saying that when someone is, it’s the kind of place that suits them, and, for the most part, Mastodon just doesn’t

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                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                          I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                          But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                          I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                          #14

                          @urlyman I notice that too.

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                          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                            …I’m *not* saying that everyone on BlueSky is egotistical. I’m just saying that when someone is, it’s the kind of place that suits them, and, for the most part, Mastodon just doesn’t

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                            #15

                            @urlyman it provided a seamless transition for the number-go-up, ego-driven, "don't your realise who i am?", thought-leader, cuntrepreneur people on twitter ... and still mired in the same cult of personality / appeal to authority stuff we saw from twitter. it just feels...grubby to me these days

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                            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                              …I’m *not* saying that everyone on BlueSky is egotistical. I’m just saying that when someone is, it’s the kind of place that suits them, and, for the most part, Mastodon just doesn’t

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                              #16

                              @urlyman

                              Looking back over the last 10 years of social media, I do have to say that 'authoritative voices' have not really helped all that much. I have found a lot more authority and knowledge and just plain wisdom from the 'nobodies', personally.

                              I guess when people were used to a professional clique on twitter and have to find a new one, it has to be frustrating. But isn't that what something like discord is for?

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                              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                @patrick_h_lauke that’s a neat encapsulation of how it seemed to me

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                                #17

                                @urlyman @patrick_h_lauke This nicely describes my perception of it too. I always found it to be kind of a "weird vibe" over there. People trying to impress as opposed to people mostly just hanging out.

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                                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                  …I’m *not* saying that everyone on BlueSky is egotistical. I’m just saying that when someone is, it’s the kind of place that suits them, and, for the most part, Mastodon just doesn’t

                                  passenger@kolektiva.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #18

                                  @urlyman

                                  Hypothesis:

                                  One purpose of algorithm-driven social media is to create and reward clout, thus giving those sorts of people what they need so that they stick around.

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                                  • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                                    @urlyman it provided a seamless transition for the number-go-up, ego-driven, "don't your realise who i am?", thought-leader, cuntrepreneur people on twitter ... and still mired in the same cult of personality / appeal to authority stuff we saw from twitter. it just feels...grubby to me these days

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                                    #19

                                    @patrick_h_lauke exactly this

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                                    • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                                      @urlyman it provided a seamless transition for the number-go-up, ego-driven, "don't your realise who i am?", thought-leader, cuntrepreneur people on twitter ... and still mired in the same cult of personality / appeal to authority stuff we saw from twitter. it just feels...grubby to me these days

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                                      #20

                                      @urlyman i still remember one of the "a-list" web design starlets at the time opining on how "the vibes are off" on masto and they decided to go all in on bluesky ... and it just felt more like "people aren't giving me enough deference/respect on masto! i was a STAR on twitter! respect my authority!"

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                                      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                        I spent quite a bit of time on BlueSky for several months and found that if you’re a nobody there is close to no engagement. If you’re a somebody, the platform laps it up.

                                        But on Mastodon the conversation flows irrespective of who you are.

                                        I know where I’d rather be https://fediscience.org/@kathhayhoe/116065653289142235

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                                        #21

                                        @urlyman @srtcd424
                                        I like how there are no #Mastodon influencers.

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                                        • passenger@kolektiva.socialP passenger@kolektiva.social

                                          @urlyman

                                          Hypothesis:

                                          One purpose of algorithm-driven social media is to create and reward clout, thus giving those sorts of people what they need so that they stick around.

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                                          #22

                                          @passenger it definitely is

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