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  • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

    Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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    #3

    @georgetakei

    Call it what it is - The #EpsteinWar

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    • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

      Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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      #4

      @georgetakei this tells us that military complicity now is likely to result in military support when Trump takes care of the coming elections.

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      • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

        Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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        #5

        @georgetakei

        The franchise Star Trek has always been an effective mirror to discuss issues with our society in a re framed narrative. In one of these stories, they address the topic of sacrificing the freedom of a small group in order to better serve the greater good.

        ADMIRAL DOUGHERTY: Jean-Luc, we are only moving six hundred people.
        PICARD: How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million? How many people does it take, Admiral?

        The country of Iran has 93 million people. The current sitting US president is talking about eradicating them. The estimated number of civilian deaths during World War 2 was approximately 55 million. The people with the power to prevent this are choosing to stand by and watch.

        How many people does it take before it becomes wrong?

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        • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

          Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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          #6

          @georgetakei Still too few are doing that.

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          • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

            Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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            #7

            @georgetakei what a deeply flawed system we keep ingratiating. I knew there was rot but it’s black and white that we were lied to all along. Just polishing a fairytale

            The constitution is a weapon for the elite, just as the slave masters intended. We occasionally get crumbs to pacify us, but the planter class is no longer afraid of the slaves and sharecroppers. There is no justice without accountability #generalstrike #classwar #revolt #israel

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            • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

              Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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              #8

              @georgetakei I doubt the next admin will persecute anything too high up the chain of command. Too political, they'll get some small fishes and a few middle guys, but pretend to be blind and deaf on anything so high up that it could come back on them.

              The Democratic Party of the USA were never the good guys - they were just the lesser of two evils. For a real change in politics, the whole system would need to reform itself - against the will of the rich=powerful elites.

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              • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                #9

                @georgetakei Hope he's got a long legal pad of names already, because the US Military has been working overtime to commit war crimes under this regime. I'd like to see a clear plank of the Democratic party be a commitment to prosecute the crimes committed during this error (sic), with specific reference to things like the Venezuela boat murders.

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                • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                  Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                  #10

                  @georgetakei

                  Ted LIeu NEVER backs down. He's had our back for a decade of this bullshit.

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                  • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                    Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                    #11
                    @georgetakei Has any U.S. administration ever prosecuted American war criminals?
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                    • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                      Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                      #12

                      @georgetakei

                      Could not be more clear than this…

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                      • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                        Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                        #13

                        @georgetakei I god damn hope there is a next administration, in several ways.

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                        • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                          Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                          #14

                          @georgetakei Bold of him to assume there will be a "next administration."

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                          • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                            Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                            #15

                            @georgetakei

                            And now each of those boys will choose 'no next administration'.

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                            • swordgeek@mstdn.caS swordgeek@mstdn.ca

                              @georgetakei "The next administration..."

                              Good luck with that.

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                              #16

                              @swordgeek @georgetakei

                              could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

                              we want the usa to improve, yes?

                              so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

                              we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

                              cynicism is acceptance of fascism

                              the cynic is MAGA's best friend

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                              • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

                                @georgetakei Bold of him to assume there will be a "next administration."

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                                #17

                                @s3a @georgetakei

                                could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

                                we want the usa to improve, yes?

                                so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

                                we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

                                cynicism is acceptance of fascism

                                the cynic is MAGA's best friend

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @s3a @georgetakei

                                  could we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?

                                  we want the usa to improve, yes?

                                  so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"

                                  we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that

                                  cynicism is acceptance of fascism

                                  the cynic is MAGA's best friend

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                                  #18

                                  @benroyce This is not cowardly spineless cynicism. It's realism. We need to do something now and not wait for elections. Waiting for elections that are very unlikely to happen fairly is what is spineless.

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                                  • georgetakei@universeodon.comG georgetakei@universeodon.com

                                    Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.

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                                    #19

                                    @georgetakei

                                    This threat would be more believable if Obama had prosecuted the Bush war crimes.

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                                    • s3a@eldritch.cafeS s3a@eldritch.cafe

                                      @benroyce This is not cowardly spineless cynicism. It's realism. We need to do something now and not wait for elections. Waiting for elections that are very unlikely to happen fairly is what is spineless.

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                                      #20

                                      @s3a

                                      nobody said "wait for elections"

                                      so don't speak of realism when you feel a need to insert a lie into what someone else wrote, and in fact stands in contrast to what they wrote

                                      showing you don't have much grasp on reality and realism

                                      the cynic very much blocks reality with their empty spineless hopelessness

                                      that is the problem

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                                      • diesch@loma.mlD diesch@loma.ml
                                        @georgetakei Has any U.S. administration ever prosecuted American war criminals?
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                                        #21

                                        @diesch @georgetakei Kissinger won the Nobel

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @s3a

                                          nobody said "wait for elections"

                                          so don't speak of realism when you feel a need to insert a lie into what someone else wrote, and in fact stands in contrast to what they wrote

                                          showing you don't have much grasp on reality and realism

                                          the cynic very much blocks reality with their empty spineless hopelessness

                                          that is the problem

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                                          #22

                                          @benroyce I said "bold of you to assume there will be elections." and you are having an extreme emotional response to that and attacking me as a person because I said we have to do things now, before the elections, when you responded angrily to a comment I made that had only to do with elections.

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