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  3. Ok, so Thursday I'll be teaching Terry Pratchett's "Guards Guards" to my fairly high-brow literary students.

Ok, so Thursday I'll be teaching Terry Pratchett's "Guards Guards" to my fairly high-brow literary students.

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  • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

    Ok, so Thursday I'll be teaching Terry Pratchett's "Guards! Guards!" to my fairly high-brow literary students. My task will be to show them that it is a wonderful piece of literature.

    Personally, I adore it, but it may take a bit of work to get my students around.

    Didactic suggestions?

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    #14

    @SuneAuken
    Maybe one angle could be how it subverts archetypal story elements. The cardboard-cutout city guard become the main characters; the lone hero with a sword and a Destiny becomes one of a group; the people pushing for a traditional happy ending are the villains and so on.

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    • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

      @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

      Ah ok. So "ACAB", nor "ABAC". Explains why I could not find it.

      Thank you for explaining. I think seeing the City Watch-series as some kind of Theory of Practical Policing is a valid approach.

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      #15

      @SuneAuken @schmidt_fu Did I do the acronym for “Attribute-Based Access Control?” Geez. I should not get those two mixed up LOL

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      • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

        @SuneAuken @schmidt_fu Did I do the acronym for “Attribute-Based Access Control?” Geez. I should not get those two mixed up LOL

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        #16

        @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

        Lol.

        Yeah. That's what i got too when i searched. I really couldn't match it with Pratchett.

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        • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

          @SuneAuken
          Maybe one angle could be how it subverts archetypal story elements. The cardboard-cutout city guard become the main characters; the lone hero with a sword and a Destiny becomes one of a group; the people pushing for a traditional happy ending are the villains and so on.

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          #17

          @jannem

          Yeah. The course is on genre and interpretation so that approach is quite likely to be there too.

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          • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

            Ok, so Thursday I'll be teaching Terry Pratchett's "Guards! Guards!" to my fairly high-brow literary students. My task will be to show them that it is a wonderful piece of literature.

            Personally, I adore it, but it may take a bit of work to get my students around.

            Didactic suggestions?

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            levzadov@kolektiva.social
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            #18

            @SuneAuken

            Unseen Academicals

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            • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

              Ok, so Thursday I'll be teaching Terry Pratchett's "Guards! Guards!" to my fairly high-brow literary students. My task will be to show them that it is a wonderful piece of literature.

              Personally, I adore it, but it may take a bit of work to get my students around.

              Didactic suggestions?

              freequaybuoy@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              freequaybuoy@mastodon.social
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              #19

              @SuneAuken Personally I'd be sold on "We're doing Guards! Guards!" but a choice quote might be, "But in cynicism and general world weariness, which is a sort of carbon dating of the personality, he was about seven thousand years old."
              - Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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              • freequaybuoy@mastodon.socialF freequaybuoy@mastodon.social

                @SuneAuken Personally I'd be sold on "We're doing Guards! Guards!" but a choice quote might be, "But in cynicism and general world weariness, which is a sort of carbon dating of the personality, he was about seven thousand years old."
                - Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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                #20

                @SuneAuken Or
                "Several times he had to flatten himself against the shelves as a thesaurus thundered by. He waited patiently as a herd of Critters crawled past, grazing on the contents of the choicer books and leaving behind them piles of small slim volumes of literary criticism."
                - Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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                • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                  @jenspoder

                  Oh, that's hard to choose.

                  I have a hard time choosing. Also, I'm still down 15 or so of the novels, and I haven't even touched the Witches Series yet.

                  I have a decided taste for the City Watch-series, and I find myself re-reading them before i read on in the rest of the novels. They use the setting so brilliantly and their loving parody i unmatched.

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                  #21

                  @SuneAuken Going Postal and The Truth have much of the same vibe as the City Watch series.

                  They about Newspapers and Journalism, and the rebuilding of the Ankh Morpork postal service. Great stuff 🙂

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                  • jenspoder@masto.nuJ jenspoder@masto.nu

                    @SuneAuken Going Postal and The Truth have much of the same vibe as the City Watch series.

                    They about Newspapers and Journalism, and the rebuilding of the Ankh Morpork postal service. Great stuff 🙂

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                    #22

                    @jenspoder

                    Oh yes, and they interact nicely. "Going Postal" carries on a narrative line started in "Feet of Clay", and as Moist von Lipwick moves up in society he meets other central players.

                    Sam Vimes is almost as important as von Lipwick in the later "Raising Steam" which by itself is closely connected to "Thud".

                    - Oh long narrative lines. This i my game ...

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                    • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                      @jenspoder

                      Oh yes, and they interact nicely. "Going Postal" carries on a narrative line started in "Feet of Clay", and as Moist von Lipwick moves up in society he meets other central players.

                      Sam Vimes is almost as important as von Lipwick in the later "Raising Steam" which by itself is closely connected to "Thud".

                      - Oh long narrative lines. This i my game ...

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                      #23

                      @jenspoder

                      I still haven't read "The Truth", but I'll get to it at some point.

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                      • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                        @jenspoder

                        I still haven't read "The Truth", but I'll get to it at some point.

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                        #24

                        @SuneAuken @jenspoder I dable in journalism so 'The Truth' strikes a chord with me.

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                        • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                          @jenspoder

                          Oh, that's hard to choose.

                          I have a hard time choosing. Also, I'm still down 15 or so of the novels, and I haven't even touched the Witches Series yet.

                          I have a decided taste for the City Watch-series, and I find myself re-reading them before i read on in the rest of the novels. They use the setting so brilliantly and their loving parody i unmatched.

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                          #25

                          @SuneAuken @jenspoder

                          Just wait until you get to Soul Music 🙂

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                          • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

                            @SuneAuken @jenspoder

                            Just wait until you get to Soul Music 🙂

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                            #26

                            @phloggen @jenspoder

                            It's wonderful.

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                            • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                              @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                              Lol.

                              Yeah. That's what i got too when i searched. I really couldn't match it with Pratchett.

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                              #27

                              @SuneAuken @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                              "couldn't match it with Pratchett"
                              Ye're a poet and don't know it!
                              P'terry'd be proud 😂

                              Great books all, try reading Wee Free Men out aloud for a laugh!

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                              • pgnx@mastodon.ieP pgnx@mastodon.ie

                                @SuneAuken @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                                "couldn't match it with Pratchett"
                                Ye're a poet and don't know it!
                                P'terry'd be proud 😂

                                Great books all, try reading Wee Free Men out aloud for a laugh!

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                                #28

                                @pgnx @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                                Yeah. It's a wonderful book. I always wonder why he abandoned the word "Pictsie" in later books, but Nac Mac Feegle remains ok.

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                                • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                                  @pgnx @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                                  Yeah. It's a wonderful book. I always wonder why he abandoned the word "Pictsie" in later books, but Nac Mac Feegle remains ok.

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                                  #29

                                  @SuneAuken @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                                  T'is strange, true. But the Clan Nac Mac Feegle cared not a jot, I imagine.

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                                  • pgnx@mastodon.ieP pgnx@mastodon.ie

                                    @SuneAuken @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                                    T'is strange, true. But the Clan Nac Mac Feegle cared not a jot, I imagine.

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                                    #30

                                    @pgnx @MisuseCase @schmidt_fu

                                    I love this.

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