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  3. I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

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  • forse@kolektiva.socialF forse@kolektiva.social

    @Remittancegirl This. They are talking like "we didn't really /want/ to kill that particular person" is a get-out-of-jail-free card.

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    #3

    @forse And I hate that the media keeps repeating their statements like that as if they are some sort of legitimate and coherent response.

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    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

      RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

      I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

      When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

      sine_nomine@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @Remittancegirl I once served in the armed forces, we would every year undertake annual training, part of that training included the Law of Armed Conflict & the Geneva Convention. EVERYONE HAD TO PASS this part. No if or buts. All the rules are known. Israel & USA are breaking all of them. ALL. OF. THEM.
      they know it too.
      EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. THEM.

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      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

        RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

        I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

        When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

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        #5

        @Remittancegirl Conversely, if you can't be trusted not to bomb non-targets, then you shouldn't be bombing anything.

        "Precision guided modern munitions that fuck up 100% of the time" feels like a problem.

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        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

          RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

          I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

          When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

          edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @Remittancegirl They have a fantastic precision strike capability and an equally impressive intelligence network that they brag about all the time.
          She was deliberately hit. There are no two ways about that.
          Journalists should bring her up as soon as they start bragging again.

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          • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

            @Remittancegirl They have a fantastic precision strike capability and an equally impressive intelligence network that they brag about all the time.
            She was deliberately hit. There are no two ways about that.
            Journalists should bring her up as soon as they start bragging again.

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            #7

            @edgeofeurope @Remittancegirl
            If there are any journalists left, since they target them too.

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            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

              RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

              I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

              When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

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              #8

              @Remittancegirl

              “Collateral damage” - accidented to death - or killed on purpose is all the same when you’re on the receiving end. Since the dead can’t speak for themselves, the burden falls on us.

              War is evil.
              There is no such thing as a just war.
              Every person is inherently, uniquely, and infinitely valuable.

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              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

                I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

                When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

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                #9

                @Remittancegirl
                Not a lawyer but I am somewhat reasonably certain that by now their actions should fall under the legal principal of "oblique intent"? i.e. it doesn't even really matter anymore whether they "really wanted" to kill their victims or not, they should still be held accountable regardless
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_(criminal_law)

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

                  I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

                  When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

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                  #10

                  @Remittancegirl
                  Block all the 🧌s

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                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                    RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

                    I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

                    When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

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                    #11

                    @Remittancegirl Israel's "logic" goes like this: "Attention everyone! We with our best friend Palantir are targeting area X, you have 12 hours to leave area X, if for any reason you don't leave area X, then it's your fault when you get decapitated or killed, and by the way we have mercenaries with guns who are required to fire widely into the air when you try to get to water stations, but don't drink! Also, our highly precision weaponry double taps schools full of children, but not our fault!"

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                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                      RE: https://journa.host/@samlitzinger/116784883875340095

                      I'm so fucking tired of hearing these murderous bastards say that the people they killed 'were not targets', as if that is a coherent statement.

                      When you drop bombs, you've targeted. Period. You are responsible for what you destroy. Period.

                      suneauken@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @Remittancegirl

                      I once heard the Danish Ombudsman explain that in Danish law knowledge is more important than intent. If you knew that something could be the effect of your actions you're responsible for it, even if it wasn't what you aimed to do.

                      These f....ers are guilty as f....

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