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  3. Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England.

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  • mojala@mastodon.onlineM mojala@mastodon.online

    @LaChasseuse are UK Greens actually lefties or just right wing capitalists with a modicum decency as a veneer on top?

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    #46

    @mojala @LaChasseuse a real mix. Polanski is proposing a strong socialist agenda. Historically a lot of Greens at local level have, in my experience, essentially been traditional conservatives who like nature and don’t like change. They’ve tended to oppose any development of anything, especially renewables. The party has lacked a coherent set of policies or at least folk could pick and choose because they were never going to make headway nationally. Under Polanski this is changing dramatically.

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    • wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW wifiwits@infosec.exchange

      @mojala @LaChasseuse a real mix. Polanski is proposing a strong socialist agenda. Historically a lot of Greens at local level have, in my experience, essentially been traditional conservatives who like nature and don’t like change. They’ve tended to oppose any development of anything, especially renewables. The party has lacked a coherent set of policies or at least folk could pick and choose because they were never going to make headway nationally. Under Polanski this is changing dramatically.

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      #47

      @Wifiwits @LaChasseuse well, more power to them and let's hope they'll succeed in bringing in some steps towards a better UK - it'd be really great if there were at least some examples of things getting better instead of worse.

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      • E ef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @petealexharris @LaChasseuse in the past, yes. Now, it appears the tables have turned and Labour are currently devolving more power to the civil service.

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        #48

        @EF @LaChasseuse
        I know people who work in the civil service, and all I can say is that is not what's happening as far as they can tell.

        But even if it was, instead of Labour you could vote for a party with progressive policy goals, who would have the civil service implement them, just as previous governments have done with disastrously regressive policies.

        I don't think anyone praising this video is planning to vote Labour.

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        • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

          Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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          #49

          @LaChasseuse this message would resonate in Australia. #auspol

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          • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

            Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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            #50

            @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot Better not *running* this message, but walk it ツ

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            • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

              Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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              #51

              @LaChasseuse 💚

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              • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                @EF @LaChasseuse
                I know people who work in the civil service, and all I can say is that is not what's happening as far as they can tell.

                But even if it was, instead of Labour you could vote for a party with progressive policy goals, who would have the civil service implement them, just as previous governments have done with disastrously regressive policies.

                I don't think anyone praising this video is planning to vote Labour.

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                #52

                @petealexharris @LaChasseuse am watching my industry get ripped apart by the DfT and the politicans spouting rhetoric claiming the inverse of reality and legislating on those statements. Many many people in the civil service are no doubt trying to make a positive difference but there are some forcing direction for "reasons" that are not always [sic] in the population's best interests.

                For the record, I did not and will not vote red or blue.

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                • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                  Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                  #53

                  @LaChasseuse Hello Englands Green Party. I have a request.

                  Swedens Green Party kind of fell asleep during math class (a bit over a decade ago). Would it be alright if they copied your notes?

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                  • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                    Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                    #54

                    @LaChasseuse It seems, that those things are going wrong in every country! Not only here in Germany...
                    And those super rich still haven't enough money? That's ridiculous!

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                    • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                      Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                      #55

                      @LaChasseuse That's how to do it! More like this please! Plus a little more on how to make hope normal again. Time to acknowledge that #neoliberalism is toxic for everyone aside from those who already have more money than they need.

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                      • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                        Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                        #56

                        @LaChasseuse If

                        Farage is to Trump what Polanski is to Mamdani?

                        👍👍👍👍

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                        • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                          Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                          #57

                          @LaChasseuse @_elena a bit naive to think this (otherwise nice) messaging will yield any results. It'll take a bigger reset button to sort things than simply voting one way or another. If anything people will vote for Farage and he sure will make GB "great again".

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                          • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                            Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                            @LaChasseuse oh wow yes

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                            • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                              Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                              #59

                              @LaChasseuse

                              Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

                              We need more than messages, other partys have broken most election promises.

                              Greens must stay firm in all respects or fail.

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                              • flohlaus@det.socialF flohlaus@det.social

                                @AwetTesfaiesus @lobingera @holger 🤔 „this isn’t just an economic failure, it’s a failure of leadership.“

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                                #60

                                @flohlaus @AwetTesfaiesus @lobingera @holger Der komplette Spott ist eine einzige (Wirtschafts-)Systemkritik. Gut so.

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                                • frlan@social.milchreislieferei.deF frlan@social.milchreislieferei.de

                                  @flohlaus @AwetTesfaiesus @lobingera @holger Der komplette Spott ist eine einzige (Wirtschafts-)Systemkritik. Gut so.

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                                  #61

                                  @frlan @flohlaus @lobingera @holger *Spot

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                                  • frlan@social.milchreislieferei.deF frlan@social.milchreislieferei.de

                                    @flohlaus @AwetTesfaiesus @lobingera @holger Der komplette Spott ist eine einzige (Wirtschafts-)Systemkritik. Gut so.

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                                    #62

                                    @frlan @flohlaus @lobingera @holger

                                    Frei nach Horkheimer: aus der Betrachtung der Zustände, folgen Analyse, Erkenntnis und dann Praxis.

                                    BTW: Sitze gerade in Addis Abeba und schreibe mit Euch über Horkheimer. Hätte er sich vermutlich so auch nicht gedacht.

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                                    • leahbobet@mstdn.caL leahbobet@mstdn.ca

                                      @petealexharris @EF @LaChasseuse Also, as someone who worked in and around politics before jumping to the grassroots side of things?

                                      A thing people weirdly forget about politicians is that they're human beings with subjectivities, blind spots, and just personal limits. They flinch, they sometimes panic, they take shortcuts, they have really normal, run-of-the-mill human failure modes. It's really less frequent that someone is a puppet to a sinister master, and much more common that they're not playing to their strengths on something and bottled it.

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                                      #63

                                      @leahbobet @petealexharris @EF @LaChasseuse

                                      Agreed. As someone who has worked closely with politicians, they are normal humans with normal human emotions.

                                      We're seeing a rash of harassment towards Edmonton councillors, and I've also been personally targeted by disgruntled constituents. Without getting into specifics, my partner and I were enjoying dinner at a restaurant earlier this year and realized we were being watched.

                                      I was just a staffer.

                                      Relevant recent article: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/edmonton-councillor-decries-harrassment

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                                      • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                                        Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                                        #64

                                        @LaChasseuse It has a Zohran mamdani vibe. Not a bad thing at all

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                                        • E ef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @LaChasseuse problem is the politicians are puppets of the civil service and the rich. Labour promised a lot and have delivered the opposite.

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                                          #65

                                          @EF The Greens are not puppets.

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