@benroyce I feel so desperately sorry for this man.
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@benroyce @frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus Even the most corporate Dems can be convinced to put pressure on Israel. Dems can feel pressure from their base. The GOP cannot. The GOP will help keep right-wingers in power everywhere and support them. The GOP will get many more Palestinians killed, and many more suffering similarly elsewhere in the world. They’re already killing millions abandoning USAID and other policies.
I don’t know what to say other than “voting in any way other than to remove fascists from power is to assist in their evil.”
Eliminate fascists first. Fight like hell to replace left-wing cowardice next. There really is no other moral position in this shitty voting system. (Fight like hell to reform that, too.)
@athayes @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus They haven't yet. The last president sold them weapons to kill kids.
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus Have at it. Dems need to earn my vote by not being centrist, Republican-leaning dipshits. If they refuse, I guess life has to keep sucking. I will look out for my neighbors locally, the rest of you can do what you want.
The USA is not going to be saved by voting for Republican-lite (Democrats) just because all conservatives are fascist scum and are very involved. You'd think Dems would field better candidates but nope...they don't.
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus I don't care about the USA in general. It's a hopelessly racist, morally bankrupt shithole. Everyone should look out for their own.
Frankly, I'm tired of getting this account sucked into these stupid political arguments. It's a music account. Art can be political, but this is just pointless. I reject your position that voting is the answer. End of story.
If nobody wants to do anything EXCEPT vote then Americans deserve what's happening. They KILL protesters.
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus I don't care about the USA in general. It's a hopelessly racist, morally bankrupt shithole. Everyone should look out for their own.
Frankly, I'm tired of getting this account sucked into these stupid political arguments. It's a music account. Art can be political, but this is just pointless. I reject your position that voting is the answer. End of story.
If nobody wants to do anything EXCEPT vote then Americans deserve what's happening. They KILL protesters.
@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus The French are literally fighting openly with cops in the streets. Americans march on weekends and wait to be ALLOWED to vote. Pretty ridiculous.
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@clintruin @weyoun6 @frequencyfault @quizzicus
which you get BY VOTING. you want el-sayed right? so you tell people to get off their fucking asses and vote for the democrat el-sayed
right?
you understand that is what works?
and "everything the same nothing matters nothing changes waah waah waah" is just useless empty loser shit, right?
@benroyce
Electoral politics is about power and coalitions. Purity pledges are for fundamentalist high school students.
If you refuse to make any coalitions, you get no power.
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@benroyce
"Democrats don't get anything done."
"Do you give them any power?"
"No"
"Then how do you expect them to get anything done?"
"They can have power after they get stuff done."THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS!!!
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus I don't care about the USA in general. It's a hopelessly racist, morally bankrupt shithole. Everyone should look out for their own.
Frankly, I'm tired of getting this account sucked into these stupid political arguments. It's a music account. Art can be political, but this is just pointless. I reject your position that voting is the answer. End of story.
If nobody wants to do anything EXCEPT vote then Americans deserve what's happening. They KILL protesters.
@frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus
"I don't care about the USA in general"
excellent
so i stopped reading there
and now you prove you don't care by shutting your useless violent ignorant mouth
let those of us who do care get stuff done. you aren't doing anything, you don't care, and your words are stupid violent shit
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Are you being willfully dumb? How about you ask Iran why bases on a border can be perceived as an aggression.
Also note how your reading comprehension is still lacking. At no point did I justify mass murder or genocide.
what does iran have to do with anything. another "bases on borders requires genocidal imperialism" scenario is just another wrongdoing
oh i see now! you're doing a whataboutism
and you are justifying genocide and mass murder: that is what russia is doing. and you are supporting their stupid weak lies for doing that
do you think you're a clever troll by denying the radioactively obvious? you just look like a fucking idiot. or, you're not trolling and you're just a fucking idiot
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus
I came up with a new name: politikaren = someone who doesn't do anything politically except complain. They refuse to vote for the best available option; all they can think to do is "send back the salad".
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus
I came up with a new name: politikaren = someone who doesn't do anything politically except complain. They refuse to vote for the best available option; all they can think to do is "send back the salad".
Oh, that just spun my head around. That's amazing.
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus I don't care about the USA in general. It's a hopelessly racist, morally bankrupt shithole. Everyone should look out for their own.
Frankly, I'm tired of getting this account sucked into these stupid political arguments. It's a music account. Art can be political, but this is just pointless. I reject your position that voting is the answer. End of story.
If nobody wants to do anything EXCEPT vote then Americans deserve what's happening. They KILL protesters.
@frequencyfault @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus Rest of the world doesn’t give a shit about the US anymore. You go ahead and refuse to vote. We will all watch from the outside and laugh as your country slips into oblivion.
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@benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus
I came up with a new name: politikaren = someone who doesn't do anything politically except complain. They refuse to vote for the best available option; all they can think to do is "send back the salad".
@jztusk @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus May I use that in a neologism post? With attribution?
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@jztusk @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus May I use that in a neologism post? With attribution?
@drwho @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus
It's the English language, so I don't think I could even try to stop you.
But yes, please feel free to, and consider it "CC BY 4.0" if you want a license.
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@frequencyfault @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus Rest of the world doesn’t give a shit about the US anymore. You go ahead and refuse to vote. We will all watch from the outside and laugh as your country slips into oblivion.
@BenCotterill @frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus
right?
these fucking losers loudly proclaiming their high holy outrage to not vote
when that is exactly the source of our problems
these stupid nonvoting assholes, and MAGA, are why we are where we are today
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@BenCotterill @frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus
right?
these fucking losers loudly proclaiming their high holy outrage to not vote
when that is exactly the source of our problems
these stupid nonvoting assholes, and MAGA, are why we are where we are today
@benroyce @BenCotterill @frequencyfault @quizzicus
And before you all flip out on me, your beef is with the author of the article, Shaun Cammack."And let’s say the non-voter is a pacifist. He believes that violence is wrong no matter what. How, in any sense, are his beliefs represented in this election? Both parties build their soapboxes on graves."
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4954429-in-defense-of-the-non-voter/ -
@benroyce @BenCotterill @frequencyfault @quizzicus
And before you all flip out on me, your beef is with the author of the article, Shaun Cammack."And let’s say the non-voter is a pacifist. He believes that violence is wrong no matter what. How, in any sense, are his beliefs represented in this election? Both parties build their soapboxes on graves."
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4954429-in-defense-of-the-non-voter/@clintruin @BenCotterill @frequencyfault @quizzicus
it's with you and this dingbat author
if you're a pacifist, you vote for people who are also pacifists
if you're a pacifist, and you don't vote, thus making it easier for warmongerers to win, are you really a pacifist? or are you just a whiny loser with no real beliefs other than "i'm a fucking poser helping fascism but too fucking stupid to understand how"?
nonvoters have no beliefs
if you believe in something, you take actions for that
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@drwho @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus
It's the English language, so I don't think I could even try to stop you.
But yes, please feel free to, and consider it "CC BY 4.0" if you want a license.
@jztusk @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus It's always polite to ask. Not everyone is okay with being quoted or recognized as the origin of something.
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@jztusk @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus It's always polite to ask. Not everyone is okay with being quoted or recognized as the origin of something.
@drwho @benroyce @clintruin @quizzicus
Oh, yeah, I appreciate the consideration.
But I'm quite happy to be cited. 
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@BenCotterill @frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus
right?
these fucking losers loudly proclaiming their high holy outrage to not vote
when that is exactly the source of our problems
these stupid nonvoting assholes, and MAGA, are why we are where we are today
@benroyce @BenCotterill @frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus Not voting is like refusing to pick up a $1 bill off the street. $1 is not much by itself, but it's still $1 that came to you instead of having to struggle for it. Pick it up. Anyone telling you not to is basically hoping for more loose notes to blow *their* way.
Voting is expressing your preference. You are not tying your moral value to the thing you vote for. You are saying one choice is better than the other.
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@benroyce @BenCotterill @frequencyfault @clintruin @quizzicus Not voting is like refusing to pick up a $1 bill off the street. $1 is not much by itself, but it's still $1 that came to you instead of having to struggle for it. Pick it up. Anyone telling you not to is basically hoping for more loose notes to blow *their* way.
Voting is expressing your preference. You are not tying your moral value to the thing you vote for. You are saying one choice is better than the other.
@log @benroyce @BenCotterill @clintruin @quizzicus Not voting is also expressing a preference. Lol
It's WILD how you guys' argument boils down to "we know the choices are terrible but you have to choose the least worst one for you because that's how the system works!"
Ok, well, then fuck the system. Insane how in your world it's the non-voters' fault Trump is back. 150 MILLION people voted and over HALF of "independents" broke for him...blame THEM and leave non-voters alone.
