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  • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

    "when did Star Trek get woke??"

    In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

    In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

    In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

    Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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    #20

    @Lana

    > “As early as 1964, Gene Roddenberry drafted a proposal for the science fiction series that would become Star Trek. […] he privately told friends that he was modeling it on Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels, intending each episode to act on two levels: as a suspenseful adventure story and as a morality tale.”

    Star Trek was woke *before* it aired

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    • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

      "when did Star Trek get woke??"

      In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

      In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

      In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

      Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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      #21

      @Lana what is the foundation of queer coding? If I went back to watch that first episode, what would I be looking for?

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      • koushiniku@hachyderm.ioK koushiniku@hachyderm.io

        @hamishtpb @Lana Yeah, but also Carol Marcus predates Beverly Crusher as the single mom with a career. Beverly went and did it twice, though. Such an overachiever.

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        #22

        @hamishtpb @Lana And THEN they made peace with the Klingons, saved the whales, and blew up god. The movies are Woke AF.

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        • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

          "when did Star Trek get woke??"

          In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

          In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

          In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

          Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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          #23

          @Lana I think Ster Trek is the very reason we associate progress with the woke stuff. That's the kind of futurism that defined the modern conception of progressivism

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          • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

            "when did Star Trek get woke??"

            In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

            In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

            In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

            Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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            #24

            @Lana

            a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps

            I think that one thing missing from this commentary is: yes, this is shortly after the Japanese internment camps.

            With the character portrayed by an actor who was actually detained in one of these camps!

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            • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

              "when did Star Trek get woke??"

              In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

              In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

              In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

              Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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              #25

              @Lana Mildly annoyed you missed my favorite series, Voyager. Back to your point though. Yup, no notes. Star Trek has always, and I hope it continues to be, woke as shit! I hope the fiends at Paramount don't ruin it.

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              • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                #26

                @Lana Note to self: I should watch the old star trek episodes again

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                • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                  "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                  In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                  In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                  In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                  Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                  #27

                  @Lana

                  Sorry to ask, but what is a "shirt skirt"?
                  A typo, or is/was it a thing?

                  (Stoopid forrinner here, my dictionary doesn't help, i and o sit next to each other on the keyboard, but maybe it's just something I haven't come across yet… 🫣 😟)

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                  • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                    "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                    In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                    In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                    In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                    Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                    #28

                    @Lana > You just grew up to be a bad person

                    you don't even know me

                    but yes

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                    • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                      "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                      In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                      In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                      In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                      Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                      #29

                      @Lana I would change that last sentence to "Star Trek has always been woke, you're the one still asleep.

                      But only for poetic reasons... I definitely think yours is better at bringing the point across.

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                      • ulrich_the_elder@thecanadian.socialU ulrich_the_elder@thecanadian.social

                        @Lana Was Chekov supposes to be Russian? I always thought he was Estonian.

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                        #30

                        @Ulrich_the_elder @Lana I always thought he was one of The Monkeys (from that band that had a television series) 😆

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                        • jeremymallin@autistics.lifeJ jeremymallin@autistics.life

                          @Ulrich_the_elder @Lana I always thought he was one of The Monkeys (from that band that had a television series) 😆

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                          #31

                          @JeremyMallin @Lana I get that.

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                          • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                            "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                            In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                            In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                            In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                            Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                            #32

                            @Lana damn I guess it's finally time to start watching Star Trek properly

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                            • caseyl@mastodon.nzC caseyl@mastodon.nz

                              @Lana @roknrol

                              IIRC, they added Chekov as a "heartthrob" in order to appeal to teenage girls

                              In the mid-60s, the wild success of theBeatles, the Monkees, and even The Man From Uncle (bc Ilya) etc., were showing that teenage girls were an important and profitable demographic - and those teenage girls liked attractive young guys who had just a touch of an exotic/dangerous air about them.

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                              #33

                              @CaseyL @Lana @roknrol

                              Apparently Nimoy/Spock was a huge hit with American housewives.

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                              • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                                "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                                In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                                In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                                In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                                Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                                #34

                                @Lana And TNG challenged common gender stereotypes when it came to costume/clothing. Or at least I always thought so, and especially more as time went on.

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                                • lawyersgunsnmoney@mstdn.socialL lawyersgunsnmoney@mstdn.social

                                  @Lana Yes, Star Trek was always “woke”. Credit Gene Roddenberry, the creator and writer. He was working to move America away the racism, warmongering and reactionary fear prevalent at the time and show a vision of society that was wonderfully different. I was fortunate to have been able to watch the show when it first aired and then subsequently. That period of the 60s was awful and forces for tolerance, peace and environmental care came out of it.

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                                  @lawyersgunsnmoney @Lana Credit also Lucille Ball for using her own money and connections to make Gene's vision a reality.

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                                  • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

                                    @lawyersgunsnmoney @Lana Credit also Lucille Ball for using her own money and connections to make Gene's vision a reality.

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                                    #36

                                    @KatS I was not aware of that! She should receive credit, it’s wonderful she did that. @Lana

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                                    • 47363@norden.social4 47363@norden.social

                                      @Lana

                                      Sorry to ask, but what is a "shirt skirt"?
                                      A typo, or is/was it a thing?

                                      (Stoopid forrinner here, my dictionary doesn't help, i and o sit next to each other on the keyboard, but maybe it's just something I haven't come across yet… 🫣 😟)

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                                      #37

                                      @47363 @Lana I suspect it's a typo for "short skirt" but yeah it can be a shirt skirt too

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                                      • lana@beige.partyL lana@beige.party

                                        "when did Star Trek get woke??"

                                        In the very first episode of Star Trek: the original series, we see a white Captain reporting to his black Admiral boss, a black woman on the bridge just a couple years after Jim Crow was abolished, wearing a short skirt (a symbol of feminist liberation at the time), a Japanese helmsman on the bridge only 20 years after the internment camps, a Russian crewmate on the bridge during the Cold War [edit: actually did not appear until Season 2 but the point stands], and the foundation of the modern concept of queercoding.

                                        In the very first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, we see male crossdressing crew members, a female officer on the bridge in charge of security, a literal ship's counselor stationed at all times on the bridge, a single mom raising her teenage son on her own while juggling a full career in medicine, a blind mechanic whose "disability" is shown to be a strength, and an angry, all-powerful godlike being who is revealed to be simply a petulant child masquerading as a deity.

                                        In the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, we see a black man gain a powerful command position, respect the hell out of the customs of a religion he didn't understand, show respect and equal treatment to members of three other alien races he didn't understand, appoint a female guerilla fighter who defeated imperialist fascists to a position of authority within his administration and defer to her judgement in areas of her expertise, accept his friend's gender change, and tell his son he loves him.

                                        Star Trek has always been woke. You just grew up to be a bad person.

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                                        #38

                                        @Lana thank you. This cannot be pointed out often enough.

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                                        • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                                          @Lana @roknrol
                                          Heck, *the writers of Wrath of Khan* forgot. It's a known continuity error that Khan's original episode was in season 1, yet Khan reacted to Chekhov with "I never forget a face".

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                                          @pteryx @Lana @roknrol At least they found a canonic excuse for that: He wasn't bridge officer by that time but had already a job on enterprise and Khan met him there off-screen (Koenig joked it had been in a restroom).

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