"Prevost has faced criticism from advocates for clergy abuse survivors regarding his handling of sexual abuse allegations during his leadership in the Augustinian order and in Peru.
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Ok, if verified (I haven't had time to fact check) this is considerably better
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The above seem to be solid, and much more like that emerges. Great.
Still quite keen to see where the cover-up story takes us. But this is much more promising than I initially thought.
As a Lutheran I'm quite pope-less, but I'd like for my catholic friends to have someone fairly decent as pontifex.
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The above seem to be solid, and much more like that emerges. Great.
Still quite keen to see where the cover-up story takes us. But this is much more promising than I initially thought.
As a Lutheran I'm quite pope-less, but I'd like for my catholic friends to have someone fairly decent as pontifex.
I was a bit worried about having an American pope for a minute, then I saw the glowing endorsements from the American right and I knew we'd be ok.
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I was a bit worried about having an American pope for a minute, then I saw the glowing endorsements from the American right and I knew we'd be ok.
@ProjectFearlessness Also he is not that much of an American. It is just that suddenly we all decide to claim him as American when he popes in.
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@ProjectFearlessness Also he is not that much of an American. It is just that suddenly we all decide to claim him as American when he popes in.
@SuneAuken
Well, it's an awkward one and we have to get the balance right. Yes, we could say he has a mixed heritage and has a very international outlook, but that wouldn't upset the Trump supporters who need to know he's American as apple pie and he is coming for their sins. -
@SuneAuken
Well, it's an awkward one and we have to get the balance right. Yes, we could say he has a mixed heritage and has a very international outlook, but that wouldn't upset the Trump supporters who need to know he's American as apple pie and he is coming for their sins.Oh this is a much better discussion than I thought. I really get your point.
i see the opposite thing - that when we do him as an American we re-confirm that the US is the center of the world and that we're all looking at them - and so I go "Nah, not really an American".
I noticed that in Danish media he was Peruvian until the moment of popeness whereupon he became American.
So yeah, a fine discussion.
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Oh this is a much better discussion than I thought. I really get your point.
i see the opposite thing - that when we do him as an American we re-confirm that the US is the center of the world and that we're all looking at them - and so I go "Nah, not really an American".
I noticed that in Danish media he was Peruvian until the moment of popeness whereupon he became American.
So yeah, a fine discussion.
@SuneAuken
Yes, there is talk that they deliberately picked an American pope as a counterpoint to Trump and an example of how an American can be a godly unifying force. I wasn't in the conclave, so I don't know for sure, but I like the redemptive narrative. -
@SuneAuken
Yes, there is talk that they deliberately picked an American pope as a counterpoint to Trump and an example of how an American can be a godly unifying force. I wasn't in the conclave, so I don't know for sure, but I like the redemptive narrative.On many points he does look like a deliberate counter to Trump. And it's glorious to see the world reject Trump's attempts at dominance with a shrug. This is more than a shrug, but it's clearly a rejection.
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On many points he does look like a deliberate counter to Trump. And it's glorious to see the world reject Trump's attempts at dominance with a shrug. This is more than a shrug, but it's clearly a rejection.
It is, however, still quite glorious.
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It is, however, still quite glorious.
@SuneAuken
It is. Also, the fun part that Trump will hate to be reminded of is that Pope Leo has about 1.4 Billion followers. Who's got MASSIVE CROWD SIZES now? -
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