I'm so disheartened about my job.
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I struggled to dismiss the ideas of solipsism as a teenager, and since I've seen how people gravitate to LLMs a large factor in why that was has become clear to me... The people I was interacting with were largely alienated from their own conscious experience, likely through training. I've never had this problem interacting with children. edit: at least ones that haven't been raised by phones.
@theeclecticdyslexic @VeeRat I had almost the reverse struggle in that I reflexively wondered about the umwelt of every other living being on the planet from small childhood, got little more than parental handwringing for my questions, and felt unreasonably vindicated when someone finally saw the need for and coined a word to express it (at least among fellow H. sapiens) in the ‘teens:
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I’ve been listening to the new Behind The Bastards (podcast) about the intersection between LLM usage and cult-like thinking (paraphrasing). This kind of thinking is more powerful and more widespread than I’d appreciated.@sollat sounds interesting
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I'm so disheartened about my job. We had a training about AI, and the person presenting just sounded so in love with it. Not as in appreciating a good tool to use, not like loving a new tool. She was actually in love with it, and even admitted to the need to stop thinking of AI as if it's a real person.
She excitedly talked about human-like responses to her prompts, as if someone she has a crush on gave her attention.
When I talk about my dislike for AI, how it can't be used ethically, how flawed it can be, I'm telling people that their crush is evil. They are reacting in a predictable way: with anger and hurt. It's an emotional topic.
Talking about a set of code shouldn't be this emotional. The data centers that are the beating hearts of their love interests get a pass from them; they would destroy the whole planet to maintain this dopamine high and in fact they are gladly doing so.
@VeeRat not for nothing but this is like saying that people who use plastic straws are responsible for destroying the environment.
No matter what you feel about people who are falling into tendencies of addiction wrt AI, or the underlying issues that lead someone to emotional attachment to a system rather than a person (fascism brought us here), it is the corporations and the billionaires propping it up who are at fault. Who built these systems with disregard for the environment.
Also "slop", as I've just learned today, is derived from "goyslop" which is a nazi phrase
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I'm so disheartened about my job. We had a training about AI, and the person presenting just sounded so in love with it. Not as in appreciating a good tool to use, not like loving a new tool. She was actually in love with it, and even admitted to the need to stop thinking of AI as if it's a real person.
She excitedly talked about human-like responses to her prompts, as if someone she has a crush on gave her attention.
When I talk about my dislike for AI, how it can't be used ethically, how flawed it can be, I'm telling people that their crush is evil. They are reacting in a predictable way: with anger and hurt. It's an emotional topic.
Talking about a set of code shouldn't be this emotional. The data centers that are the beating hearts of their love interests get a pass from them; they would destroy the whole planet to maintain this dopamine high and in fact they are gladly doing so.
@VeeRat reframe it as "AIs parents are evil"?
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I'm so disheartened about my job. We had a training about AI, and the person presenting just sounded so in love with it. Not as in appreciating a good tool to use, not like loving a new tool. She was actually in love with it, and even admitted to the need to stop thinking of AI as if it's a real person.
She excitedly talked about human-like responses to her prompts, as if someone she has a crush on gave her attention.
When I talk about my dislike for AI, how it can't be used ethically, how flawed it can be, I'm telling people that their crush is evil. They are reacting in a predictable way: with anger and hurt. It's an emotional topic.
Talking about a set of code shouldn't be this emotional. The data centers that are the beating hearts of their love interests get a pass from them; they would destroy the whole planet to maintain this dopamine high and in fact they are gladly doing so.
@VeeRat When this is over, there's going to be a need to have slop-intoxicated people in some sort of rehab-style educational thing to get their brains back in working order because of all the damage caused by the slopmachines.
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@theeclecticdyslexic @VeeRat I had almost the reverse struggle in that I reflexively wondered about the umwelt of every other living being on the planet from small childhood, got little more than parental handwringing for my questions, and felt unreasonably vindicated when someone finally saw the need for and coined a word to express it (at least among fellow H. sapiens) in the ‘teens:
Sorry to hear about the relatable experience of adult figures unequipped to handle difficult questions...
I often feared I was thoughts floating alone in aether. The concept was distressing to 15 year old me; it felt accurate. I eventually decided the only way to live was to choose to act as though that isn't true, even just for myself.
Years later learned about the "brain in a vat"!
I find the feeling of sonder very reassuring.
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I would have walked out of that training. -
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I’ve been listening to the new Behind The Bastards (podcast) about the intersection between LLM usage and cult-like thinking (paraphrasing). This kind of thinking is more powerful and more widespread than I’d appreciated. -
I'm so disheartened about my job. We had a training about AI, and the person presenting just sounded so in love with it. Not as in appreciating a good tool to use, not like loving a new tool. She was actually in love with it, and even admitted to the need to stop thinking of AI as if it's a real person.
She excitedly talked about human-like responses to her prompts, as if someone she has a crush on gave her attention.
When I talk about my dislike for AI, how it can't be used ethically, how flawed it can be, I'm telling people that their crush is evil. They are reacting in a predictable way: with anger and hurt. It's an emotional topic.
Talking about a set of code shouldn't be this emotional. The data centers that are the beating hearts of their love interests get a pass from them; they would destroy the whole planet to maintain this dopamine high and in fact they are gladly doing so.
@VeeRat (employing the Socratic method...) "so you'd obviously want total privacy in your interactions with this entity?" "Right?"
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I'm so disheartened about my job. We had a training about AI, and the person presenting just sounded so in love with it. Not as in appreciating a good tool to use, not like loving a new tool. She was actually in love with it, and even admitted to the need to stop thinking of AI as if it's a real person.
She excitedly talked about human-like responses to her prompts, as if someone she has a crush on gave her attention.
When I talk about my dislike for AI, how it can't be used ethically, how flawed it can be, I'm telling people that their crush is evil. They are reacting in a predictable way: with anger and hurt. It's an emotional topic.
Talking about a set of code shouldn't be this emotional. The data centers that are the beating hearts of their love interests get a pass from them; they would destroy the whole planet to maintain this dopamine high and in fact they are gladly doing so.
@VeeRat there's something religion-like in this
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