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  • r@glauca.spaceR r@glauca.space

    @Daojoan to join the "well actually" crowd, email absolutely did have throttling, although retry and backoff logic tended to be much more reliable and well-tested back then

    there was a lot of the old internet that wasn't democratized and "yours" (e.g. acquiring connectivity, acquiring compute), although the details have shifted around a lot

    serenus@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @r @Daojoan I feel like there were models for democratized connectivity? The earliest setup I remember using was through torfree.net, and they were one of a group of freenets running under a co-op model, I think. Looks like they’re still around and offering free service as well, which is a pleasant surprise.

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    • serenus@mas.toS serenus@mas.to

      @r @Daojoan I feel like there were models for democratized connectivity? The earliest setup I remember using was through torfree.net, and they were one of a group of freenets running under a co-op model, I think. Looks like they’re still around and offering free service as well, which is a pleasant surprise.

      r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #32

      @Serenus @Daojoan yeah, this existed in various places (*especially* _outside_ the United States, where suburbia and monopolies really ruined things). there also existed people hosting stuff on spare computers and using dynamic dns providers

      you gain some, you lose some. nowadays connectivity and compute are *way* easier and more affordable, but the cultural knowledge that you _can_ self-host seems to be disappearing

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        RSS never tracked you.
        Email never throttled you.
        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
        The old web wasn’t perfect.
        But it was yours.

        andrija@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #33

        @Daojoan And it still is ❤️‍🔥

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          RSS never tracked you.
          Email never throttled you.
          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
          The old web wasn’t perfect.
          But it was yours.

          bestcryptotwits@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          bestcryptotwits@mastodon.social
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #34

          @Daojoan the internet has changed significantly, now it the time to take it back!

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            RSS never tracked you.
            Email never throttled you.
            Blogs never begged for dopamine.
            The old web wasn’t perfect.
            But it was yours.

            wally@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #35

            @Daojoan The old web was perfect. The browser showed you when a page was loading and you knew when it was done loading. Now I never know if the element I'm about to click on is going to change or if the whole page is going to shift.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              @forst Problem with that is - we often paywall our stuff these days so that it isn’t all just scraped and summarised by a smorgasbord of bots. It’s such a balancing problem

              amazing_ariella@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              amazing_ariella@mastodon.social
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #36

              @Daojoan hello I've been following your post for a while most say you are part of the reason I'm still on here

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                RSS never tracked you.
                Email never throttled you.
                Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                The old web wasn’t perfect.
                But it was yours.

                werawelt@social.tchncs.deW This user is from outside of this forum
                werawelt@social.tchncs.deW This user is from outside of this forum
                werawelt@social.tchncs.de
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #37

                @Daojoan
                Yeah! 👍
                The old web is still there.
                I use RSS with fluent-reader
                I use email with #deltachat
                I use a blog with own domain

                You just have to ignore the commercial Social Media and advertising with f.e. uBlock, then you'll see it 🙂

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                • funes@infosec.exchangeF funes@infosec.exchange

                  @Daojoan my Dragonball Z angelfire fan page with an endless scroll of stolen gifs however did beg for dopamine

                  murdoc@autistics.lifeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #38

                  @funes @Daojoan
                  I still have a site like that sitting on my hard drive.
                  Ah, the good ol' days.

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    RSS never tracked you.
                    Email never throttled you.
                    Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                    The old web wasn’t perfect.
                    But it was yours.

                    codingitwrong@tdd.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #39

                    @Daojoan @mdx minor clarification: email tracked you, though

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      RSS never tracked you.
                      Email never throttled you.
                      Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                      The old web wasn’t perfect.
                      But it was yours.

                      loserhead@me.ns.ciL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      loserhead@me.ns.ci
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #40

                      @Daojoan
                      To me, they are just passive web, much unlike the active web now.
                      They will never die, unlike the companys.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        RSS never tracked you.
                        Email never throttled you.
                        Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                        The old web wasn’t perfect.
                        But it was yours.

                        jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        jeffgrigg@mastodon.social
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #41

                        @Daojoan

                        Usenet news groups stayed on topic!

                        They were organized by topic.

                        I keep wondering why we abandoned that idea.

                        😿

                        ...

                        (Well yes, it's still there and one can still use it. But so much of it has been taken over by robots pushing spam. 😢 )

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                        • kajord@hachyderm.ioK kajord@hachyderm.io

                          @Daojoan blogs definitely begged for dopamine, but it was slower release than the kind we have now.

                          quincypeck@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          quincypeck@mastodon.social
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                          #42

                          @kajord @Daojoan the way I would constantly refresh my RSS reader…

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            RSS never tracked you.
                            Email never throttled you.
                            Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                            The old web wasn’t perfect.
                            But it was yours.

                            mingistech@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            mingistech@toot.community
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #43

                            @Daojoan @lisamelton Hell, now most people use a browser that’s spyware from a marketing company. Dark times.

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                            • mingistech@toot.communityM mingistech@toot.community

                              @Daojoan @lisamelton Hell, now most people use a browser that’s spyware from a marketing company. Dark times.

                              daojoan@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              daojoan@mastodon.social
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #44

                              @mingistech @lisamelton Indeed.

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                RSS never tracked you.
                                Email never throttled you.
                                Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                But it was yours.

                                tfburkepoetry@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                tfburkepoetry@mastodon.social
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #45

                                @Daojoan yes! Agreed!😊

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  RSS never tracked you.
                                  Email never throttled you.
                                  Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                  The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                  But it was yours.

                                  nosaj@aus.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  nosaj@aus.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #46

                                  @Daojoan

                                  You clearly never owed Email money. 🤣

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                                  • nawanp@fe.disroot.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    nawanp@fe.disroot.org
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #47

                                    Stop romanticizing the old web. It’s flawed but should be acknowledged for what it is.

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                                    • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                                      @Daojoan but...but...KPIs! engagement metrics!

                                      digirights@tooot.imD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #48

                                      @patrick_h_lauke @Daojoan noticed how they never measure engagement with family and friends? Set KPIs for mental wellbeing and sleep cycle? It's like they work for big psychiatry!

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                                      • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

                                        @Daojoan

                                        Usenet news groups stayed on topic!

                                        They were organized by topic.

                                        I keep wondering why we abandoned that idea.

                                        😿

                                        ...

                                        (Well yes, it's still there and one can still use it. But so much of it has been taken over by robots pushing spam. 😢 )

                                        jamesb192@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #49

                                        @JeffGrigg @Daojoan pathetic penis pill pushing profiteers. Not just the placebos, but mostly.

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          RSS never tracked you.
                                          Email never throttled you.
                                          Blogs never begged for dopamine.
                                          The old web wasn’t perfect.
                                          But it was yours.

                                          mtillman@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mtillman@mastodon.sdf.org
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #50

                                          @Daojoan Gemini and Gopher are still a thing fwiw. Check out Lagrange

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