Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
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@jon I don't really know why it's this way. In the south you just get regular warning signs with moose or deer, maybe it's to make the difference clear (and the fact that the danger doesn't stop after a couple of km.)
Reindeer, being half tame behave quite differently than moose. They might decide to not be scared of a car at all.
I am guessing!!!
But maybe it's just like a symbol? How would you show/display if you want to say "the northern part of Finland"? Most likely with a map wouldn't you?
Just as someone decided to use the silhouette of the deer instead of just the head or hooves or footprint. Just because it's the most forward understandable symbol.
What's missing on the sign is a symbol for "breeding". Maybe two Reindeers on top of each other and a smaller one?
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I am guessing!!!
But maybe it's just like a symbol? How would you show/display if you want to say "the northern part of Finland"? Most likely with a map wouldn't you?
Just as someone decided to use the silhouette of the deer instead of just the head or hooves or footprint. Just because it's the most forward understandable symbol.
What's missing on the sign is a symbol for "breeding". Maybe two Reindeers on top of each other and a smaller one?
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And it looks like the most delicate train tomorrow is scheduled to get *to* Haparanda, and hence I can take it back to Boden
https://1409.se/position?tagNr=7182&datum=2026-09-08&lang=en&trainID=6124114
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Train cancelled
It has all broken in Haparanda
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Train cancelled
It has all broken in Haparanda
@jon oh no
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No
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It has all broken in Haparanda
@jon Noooooo !
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It has all broken in Haparanda
@jon Not sure if I think it's better here than in Lisboa…
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It has all broken in Haparanda
@jon As the swedes would say: fy fan!
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Train cancelled
It has all broken in Haparanda
So I could...
Change my rules, take a rail replacement bus Haparanda - Boden, anyway miss my connection in Boden, and re-plan and be on schedule by Hamburg - with some buffer
Wait for the next train, and massively re-plan, and rely on a 11 minute connection Snälltåget to Nightjet in Hamburg...
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No
Train cancelled
It has all broken in Haparanda
@jon Norrtåg? They seem to do it *all the time*!
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No
Train cancelled
It has all broken in Haparanda
@jon Damn. Time to adjust your rules then and accept taking a rail replacement bus as long as it is not scheduled in advance?
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@jon Norrtåg? They seem to do it *all the time*!
@sebwilken Yes. And I *even had a meeting scheduled with their CEO in Umeå* (now cancelled)
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@jon Damn. Time to adjust your rules then and accept taking a rail replacement bus as long as it is not scheduled in advance?
@tml It doesn't even help much - driving to Boden takes longer, so I get stuck in Boden instead! Although waiting for the next train in Haparanda is even worse in terms of timetable.
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@sebwilken Yes. And I *even had a meeting scheduled with their CEO in Umeå* (now cancelled)
@jon Such a same!! I heard it so many times now that there must be a system behind. When the number of bookings is smaller than x they send a bus.
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So I could...
Change my rules, take a rail replacement bus Haparanda - Boden, anyway miss my connection in Boden, and re-plan and be on schedule by Hamburg - with some buffer
Wait for the next train, and massively re-plan, and rely on a 11 minute connection Snälltåget to Nightjet in Hamburg...
@jon I'd say the train-replacement-bus is fair game here.
That 11 min connection (realistic?) might just cause another missed train later on?
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@jon Such a same!! I heard it so many times now that there must be a system behind. When the number of bookings is smaller than x they send a bus.
@sebwilken I also hear Norrtåg is short of trains. But it massively messes up loads of LONG trips, as then connections in Boden also break. And how did they know I was even here, as I have Interrail?
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@jon I'd say the train-replacement-bus is fair game here.
That 11 min connection (realistic?) might just cause another missed train later on?
@Pepijn If I miss that there's a later ICE to Hannover that catches up the NightJet...
And the Snälltaget, if it runs at all, is quite on time...
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@davidjamesweir @jon 36% of Finland’s territory! (Much less of its public roads, of course.)
@tml @davidjamesweir @jon Are those holes in the sign bullet holes?
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@Pepijn If I miss that there's a later ICE to Hannover that catches up the NightJet...
And the Snälltaget, if it runs at all, is quite on time...
@jon That does sound like a good choice then. Despite the risk and rescheduling you still aim for train connections.
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@sebwilken I also hear Norrtåg is short of trains. But it massively messes up loads of LONG trips, as then connections in Boden also break. And how did they know I was even here, as I have Interrail?
@jon That’s the point, they just don’t care about Interrail! I had one report that the driver even refused to let Interrailers on the bus ("This is not valid here").
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So I could...
Change my rules, take a rail replacement bus Haparanda - Boden, anyway miss my connection in Boden, and re-plan and be on schedule by Hamburg - with some buffer
Wait for the next train, and massively re-plan, and rely on a 11 minute connection Snälltåget to Nightjet in Hamburg...
Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
