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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @leo a few years ago I calculated it for Paris - Bruxelles. If you run the current peak timetable all day, run 16 carriage trains all day, and run double deckers you get 186% more seats. On existing infra! That’s before even factoring in if there’s extra space on the lines.

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    #101

    @jon Wow, that's impressive. I misinterpreted "Eurostar" as trains connecting London to "Europe" (i.e. the old Eurostar label). Would the cross-channel connections also have more capacity if operated at max?

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      And it is at moments like this that you realise that

      COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

      I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

      But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

      My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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      #102

      @jon I can see an argument that for channel tunnel operations, they should know the exact number of pax (or at least the maximum number of pax) for logistics in case of evacuation.

      But obv that doesn't apply to Thalys services...

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      • swaldman@mendeddrum.orgS swaldman@mendeddrum.org

        @jon I can see an argument that for channel tunnel operations, they should know the exact number of pax (or at least the maximum number of pax) for logistics in case of evacuation.

        But obv that doesn't apply to Thalys services...

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        #103

        @swaldman @jon The max number shouldn't change. Regardless of number who bought tickets. You have to do your emergency planning based on the theoretical max, plus a margin of error.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          As if today was not bad enough, I have just been sacked by College of Europe - my oldest teaching contract - in a email that ends "Thank you for you understanding and for your cooperation". No actually. Your conduct absolutely STINKS. For more than a decade of teaching there to end like this is 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 #CrossBorderRail

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          #104

          @jon Oh no. That is terrible / disgraceful. So sorry to hear this.

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          • leo@mastodon.greenL leo@mastodon.green

            @jon Wow, that's impressive. I misinterpreted "Eurostar" as trains connecting London to "Europe" (i.e. the old Eurostar label). Would the cross-channel connections also have more capacity if operated at max?

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            #105

            @leo not quite that much. But you’d get at least 75% more, educated guess.

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            • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

              @swaldman @jon The max number shouldn't change. Regardless of number who bought tickets. You have to do your emergency planning based on the theoretical max, plus a margin of error.

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              #106

              @quixoticgeek @jon

              What is the theoretical maximum number of people on a train that allows standing and doesn't require reservations?

              Doesn't matter though, because for channel tunnel there must be an accurate count available because of passport control! No need for reservations.
              (though I guess getting border force to share their data might be hard)

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              • swaldman@mendeddrum.orgS swaldman@mendeddrum.org

                @quixoticgeek @jon

                What is the theoretical maximum number of people on a train that allows standing and doesn't require reservations?

                Doesn't matter though, because for channel tunnel there must be an accurate count available because of passport control! No need for reservations.
                (though I guess getting border force to share their data might be hard)

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                #107

                @swaldman @quixoticgeek @jon it will be really easy after the first tunnel incident with mass casualties

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                • tho99@mendeddrum.orgT tho99@mendeddrum.org

                  @swaldman @quixoticgeek @jon it will be really easy after the first tunnel incident with mass casualties

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                  #108

                  @Tho99 @swaldman @jon the number of safety systems that would have to have failed by then is concerning.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    As if today was not bad enough, I have just been sacked by College of Europe - my oldest teaching contract - in a email that ends "Thank you for you understanding and for your cooperation". No actually. Your conduct absolutely STINKS. For more than a decade of teaching there to end like this is 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 #CrossBorderRail

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                    #109

                    @jon WTF !?!?!

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                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                      @Tho99 @swaldman @jon the number of safety systems that would have to have failed by then is concerning.

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                      #110

                      @quixoticgeek @swaldman @jon true, but also possible border police resistance would evaporate

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        As if today was not bad enough, I have just been sacked by College of Europe - my oldest teaching contract - in a email that ends "Thank you for you understanding and for your cooperation". No actually. Your conduct absolutely STINKS. For more than a decade of teaching there to end like this is 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 #CrossBorderRail

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                        #111

                        @jon What an unprofessional way to end something like that by email, and even worse with that sentence 😐

                        I hope new unexpected opportunities will pass by soon 🤞

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          As if today was not bad enough, I have just been sacked by College of Europe - my oldest teaching contract - in a email that ends "Thank you for you understanding and for your cooperation". No actually. Your conduct absolutely STINKS. For more than a decade of teaching there to end like this is 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 #CrossBorderRail

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                          #112

                          @jon
                          Ouch 🤗

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