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  3. In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

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  • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

    @paavi The noise, believe it or not, is deliberate, and is there for the same reason many other machines are unnecessarily noisy -- often as much as the law will allow. Many consumers assume that a quiet machine isn't working as hard.

    You can buy 'silent' vaccuums, but they're not marketed to consumers because consumers won't buy them. Many professionals (such as casinos) buy them.

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    #43

    @wesdym I already knew this, but thanks for pointing it out! It's probably not obvious to most people. 🙂
    Edit: I also have to contradict on your last point. Electrolux comes to mind as one example of marketing what I'd call "less loud" vacuum cleaners. Your market may or may not have that particular brand, but they have models actively marketed as being silent (compared to most others available).

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    • patterfloof@meow.socialP patterfloof@meow.social

      @clanger9 @MarkHoltom if water's a recurring problem, there's one of the Henry family that's designed to be a wet vac

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      #44

      Indeed. They usually only discover this fact after they've destroyed a dry one 🫠

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      • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

        In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

        In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

        Don’t buy a Dyson.

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        #45

        @MarkHoltom I remember when Dyson "revolutionised" the washing machine, a design that broke down regularly & then quietly disappeared because they were an overly complex solution to a problem other manufacturers had worked out years ago.

        Also Dyson's electric car that he promised to build in the UK, but then decided Singapore was a better option because it had cheaper labour, which he then binned because car building was hard.

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        • bez_lightyear@crispsandwi.chB bez_lightyear@crispsandwi.ch

          @MarkHoltom I remember when Dyson "revolutionised" the washing machine, a design that broke down regularly & then quietly disappeared because they were an overly complex solution to a problem other manufacturers had worked out years ago.

          Also Dyson's electric car that he promised to build in the UK, but then decided Singapore was a better option because it had cheaper labour, which he then binned because car building was hard.

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          #46

          @Bez_Lightyear @MarkHoltom The CR01 weighed so much more too, it was two washing machines in one.
          Try stacking those in a warehouse.

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          • bencotterill@mastodon.socialB bencotterill@mastodon.social

            @Bez_Lightyear @MarkHoltom The CR01 weighed so much more too, it was two washing machines in one.
            Try stacking those in a warehouse.

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            #47

            @Bez_Lightyear @MarkHoltom Could get up to three stacked on my own without a forklift. Had to make weird steps out of other washing machines to do it. Pretty sure it was those and Panasonic 36 inch CRTs that gave me a hiatus hernia.

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            • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

              @Thebratdragon @CppGuy @MarkHoltom Yup. I don't want fancy wanky unreliable rubbish, I just want a rugged vacuum that doesn't suck.

              Wait, no.

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              #48

              @woe2you 🤣 @Thebratdragon @CppGuy @MarkHoltom

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              • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                @CppGuy @MarkHoltom Good call. I bought a Henry because it's what I always see contract cleaners using. Apparently they're fairly repairable too, not that I've needed to.

                Oh, and Dyson supported Brexit too. So he can get in the bin with Tim Martin.

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                #49

                @woe2you @CppGuy @MarkHoltom

                Henry's made in Somerset I believe?

                My parents had a Dyson (inherited from my grandparents). They had to change the filter more often than I'd change a bag on mine. Then it broke.

                Don't buy a Dyson

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                • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

                  In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

                  In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

                  Don’t buy a Dyson.

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                  #50

                  @MarkHoltom Dyson also just makes shit products that can't even do a good job to begin with.

                  Not just the vacuums, either.

                  Also those stupid "Air blade" hand "dryers" that some businesses have in lieu of paper (I HATE HATE HATE air hand dryers; I NEED COMPLETELY DRY HANDS or they're going to feel icky and gross for the rest of the day) that have also been proven objectively to not work at all.

                  Here at my place we have a Kirby vacuum and those things are rock solid dead reliable.

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                  • dragonarchitect@rubber.socialD dragonarchitect@rubber.social

                    @MarkHoltom Dyson also just makes shit products that can't even do a good job to begin with.

                    Not just the vacuums, either.

                    Also those stupid "Air blade" hand "dryers" that some businesses have in lieu of paper (I HATE HATE HATE air hand dryers; I NEED COMPLETELY DRY HANDS or they're going to feel icky and gross for the rest of the day) that have also been proven objectively to not work at all.

                    Here at my place we have a Kirby vacuum and those things are rock solid dead reliable.

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                    #51

                    @dragonarchitect @MarkHoltom even better...... They now make /taps/ with integrated hand dryers!

                    Do you enjoy getting soap and water blown all over you because you had the audacity to put your hands in the wrong place and it activated the dryer!???!

                    Dyson has you covered!...... Literally!

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                    • dragonarchitect@rubber.socialD dragonarchitect@rubber.social

                      @MarkHoltom Dyson also just makes shit products that can't even do a good job to begin with.

                      Not just the vacuums, either.

                      Also those stupid "Air blade" hand "dryers" that some businesses have in lieu of paper (I HATE HATE HATE air hand dryers; I NEED COMPLETELY DRY HANDS or they're going to feel icky and gross for the rest of the day) that have also been proven objectively to not work at all.

                      Here at my place we have a Kirby vacuum and those things are rock solid dead reliable.

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                      #52

                      @dragonarchitect @MarkHoltom compared to numatic's henry hoovers... the numatic ones just. work forever
                      they're great, got a friend who works for numatic, 'pparently is a good gig

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                      • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

                        In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

                        In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

                        Don’t buy a Dyson.

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                        #53

                        @MarkHoltom everyone who owned a Dyson in my immediate surrounding told me to not buy a Dyson because they're utterly shit at doing what they're supposed to do.

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                        • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

                          In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

                          In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

                          Don’t buy a Dyson.

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                          #54

                          @MarkHoltom Dyson products are grossly overpriced garbage.

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                          • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

                            In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

                            In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

                            Don’t buy a Dyson.

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                            #55

                            @MarkHoltom

                            Dyson vacuums are crap anyway.

                            Bought one, it died before a single year had passed.

                            A Hoover Porta-Power I had ran for 40 years.

                            Would not buy a Dyson anything ever again. Total garbage.

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                            • bez_lightyear@crispsandwi.chB bez_lightyear@crispsandwi.ch

                              @MarkHoltom I remember when Dyson "revolutionised" the washing machine, a design that broke down regularly & then quietly disappeared because they were an overly complex solution to a problem other manufacturers had worked out years ago.

                              Also Dyson's electric car that he promised to build in the UK, but then decided Singapore was a better option because it had cheaper labour, which he then binned because car building was hard.

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                              #56

                              @Bez_Lightyear @MarkHoltom it’s almost like he’s just a whiny, entitled fool… almost

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                              • inchulk@mastodon.greenI inchulk@mastodon.green

                                @MarkHoltom Dyson pays sweet FA in tax, but his massive profits are being used to buy up vast swaths of British farmland.
                                It was once said “buy land, they are not making it any more”.

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                                #57

                                @MarkHoltom @IncHulk oh and he’s revolutioning farming with his superior brain. Colour me skeptical.

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                                • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                  @pattykimura Ask a professional what they'd recommend, and buy that. Pros aren't impressed with marketing, only with actual performance, which they evaluate every single day. They know what actually works and what's actually cost-effective.

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                                  #58

                                  @wesdym @pattykimura A professional vacuum cleaner? Who uses home appliances?

                                  The problem with asking tradies/pros is that 90% of the time they use products that are way overkill for home use (a tradie carpenter won’t tell you to get Ryobi brushed, and yet they’re fine for 99% of the homeowners). The other 40% they’re using a brand because that’s what the person taught them was using. They swear it’s the best but have never used anything else.

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                                  • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                                    @CppGuy @MarkHoltom Good call. I bought a Henry because it's what I always see contract cleaners using. Apparently they're fairly repairable too, not that I've needed to.

                                    Oh, and Dyson supported Brexit too. So he can get in the bin with Tim Martin.

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                                    #59

                                    @woe2you @CppGuy @MarkHoltom I'd love to get a Henry, but sadly they only make them in 240V, making them pretty useless in North America. If there's an equivalent out there that works on 120V, I'd love to know! (for future reference anyways, I don't need a new vacuum currently)

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                                      @woe2you @CppGuy @MarkHoltom I'd love to get a Henry, but sadly they only make them in 240V, making them pretty useless in North America. If there's an equivalent out there that works on 120V, I'd love to know! (for future reference anyways, I don't need a new vacuum currently)

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                                      #60

                                      @Quinn9282 @CppGuy @MarkHoltom I heard a while back that Miele were also good from a repairs standpoint.

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                                      • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

                                        In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

                                        In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

                                        Don’t buy a Dyson.

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                                        #61

                                        @MarkHoltom
                                        We wish we had known this before we bought an expensive #Dyson vacuum that broke under routine use.

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                                        • markholtom@mastodonapp.ukM markholtom@mastodonapp.uk

                                          In 1959, Volvo invented the three point seat belt and released the patent to it for free, realising it would save millions of lives.

                                          In 2020 (Covid), James Dyson asked for a tax cut before he would even try to build a ventilator to save a life, then moved his business abroad to avoid tax. He didn't deliver a single ventilator.

                                          Don’t buy a Dyson.

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                                          #62

                                          @MarkHoltom Thank you, I wasn’t aware of this. Looking in to it also exposed me to his positive opinion of brexit

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