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  • zalasur@mastodon.surazal.netZ zalasur@mastodon.surazal.net

    @cstross Always check for the word boundaries 😅

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    #53

    @zalasur @cstross
    \b is your friend!

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    • owent@mastodon.socialO owent@mastodon.social

      @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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      #54

      @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

        @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross another book did this and resulted in particitrousers...

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        #55

        @quixoticgeek @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross
        Someoneneeds to pad theirsearch terms with appropriate whitespace (hi, @edwinb - who really understands whitespace).

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        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

          @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross another book did this and resulted in particitrousers...

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          #56

          @quixoticgeek @owent

          "It's the wrong trousers, Gromit!"

          (That said, there now needs to be a protest-movement called Occutrousers. The name just says something definitive about careless use of technology. (See also: "cdesign proponentsists"))

          @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            #WritersCoffeeClub

            PS to "silly mistakes": a common misconception is that copy editors will spot your silly mistakes. They might ... but then again, they might think the mistake was the authorial intention and let it pass. CEs vary wildly in their approach (never say competence) and your trad publisher's commissioning editor is busy managing workflow (editing gets done on the side, in their own time).

            So don't rely on the editors cleaning up your messes.

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            #57

            @cstross

            I do know that by the time I hand over the manuscript to my copy editor, I have read it myself three times, with multiple months passing between the readings.

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            • towo@chaos.socialT towo@chaos.social

              @cstross
              The good old "dawizard" from D&D comes to mind.
              Hint for the unitiated: 4d6 dawizard.

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              #58

              @towo @cstross Back in the 1990s my university installed a language filter to keep bad words off the new public intranet, and the Archie Dykes Medical Library disappeared from view.

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              • owent@mastodon.socialO owent@mastodon.social

                @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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                #59

                @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross clbuttic mistake

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                • gavin57@toot.walesG gavin57@toot.wales

                  @Fratm @owent Nigel? Sorry, it's late, that went right over my head.

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                  #60

                  @gavin57 @owent it's a reference to the game. Red Dead redemption 2. LOL anytime I see the name Gavin it makes me think of it.

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                  • blotosmetek@circumstances.runB blotosmetek@circumstances.run

                    @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross "buttbuttination of the ambbuttador"…

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                    #61

                    @blotosmetek @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross At one point I had a very Christian co-worker who regularly used to shorten Home Assistant to Home Ass. It wouldn't have been worth the trouble to point it out ...

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                    • owent@mastodon.socialO owent@mastodon.social

                      @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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                      #62

                      @owent a true "postcode file" on windows moment

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                      • landley@mstdn.jpL landley@mstdn.jp

                        @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross I remember an early harry potter book where one of the characters said something apartmently.

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                        #63

                        @landley

                        The divine afflatus fell apart mentally.

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                        • fratm@mastodon.socialF fratm@mastodon.social

                          @gavin57 @owent it's a reference to the game. Red Dead redemption 2. LOL anytime I see the name Gavin it makes me think of it.

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                          #64

                          @Fratm @owent “Has anyone seen my friend, Gavin”…

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                          • wellsitegeo@masto.aiW wellsitegeo@masto.ai

                            @quixoticgeek @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross
                            Someoneneeds to pad theirsearch terms with appropriate whitespace (hi, @edwinb - who really understands whitespace).

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                            #65

                            @WellsiteGeo @quixoticgeek @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @edwinb No, they need to pad their search terms with non-word atoms (regular expressions are your friend!), i.e. \W+(search_word)\W+ (in perl-compatible regexp syntax).

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                            • editer@mastodon.socialE editer@mastodon.social

                              @towo @cstross Back in the 1990s my university installed a language filter to keep bad words off the new public intranet, and the Archie Dykes Medical Library disappeared from view.

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                              #66

                              @editer @towo In the 2000s, Macmillan's corporate IT department installed a bad word filter *on their incoming email*. It finally got nuked after Tom Doherty (CEO of Tor) stormed their boardroom ranting furiously because the incoming email filter had repeatedly eaten the manuscript of a scheduled bestseller that Production were waiting on. (Turns out publishers get novels via email and novels frequently contain rude words: who could possibly have imagined *that* in a publisher's IT department?)

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                              • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                                @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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                                #67

                                @SmartmanApps @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross "one of these is *not* a banana. Can you find out which one?"

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                                • djrndm@chaos.socialD djrndm@chaos.social

                                  @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross Clear case of idiot editor. Because one obviously can be space sensitive and only replace " pants " with " trousers " and th[e]n this should be no problem.

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                                  #68

                                  @DJRNDM @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross well, that doesn't quite work, because "pants." — but you're not wrong.

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    #WritersCoffeeClub Apr 24 Share a silly mistake you've made while writing.

                                    Character name changes. If for some reason you change the name of a character you *really* need to double-check that it's changed *everywhere*. Hint: regular expressions and global *conditional* search/replace are your tools. Also how to manage word stemming with regexps. Then triple-check *everything*. Otherwise—guaranteed—you'll flip a character's name in one paragraph and the internet will never let you forget it!

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                                    #69

                                    @cstross Protip: always do big renamings via an intermediate nonsense string.
                                    1) Globally rename the original string 'pants' to something that doesn't occur anywhere else, like 'xyzyx'.
                                    2) Search for the new string and step through all occurrences to check for mistakes like 'particixyzyx' and fix them. This is now an easy task.
                                    3) Rename all placeholders to the final string.

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                                    • djrndm@chaos.socialD djrndm@chaos.social

                                      @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross Clear case of idiot editor. Because one obviously can be space sensitive and only replace " pants " with " trousers " and th[e]n this should be no problem.

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                                      #70

                                      @DJRNDM @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord

                                      Groan.

                                      s/(\W+?)(pants)(\W+?)/\1trousers\3/ig

                                      You could use \b — match a word boundary — instead of \W+? (smallest count of non-word characters preceding the next regexp group) but that'd miss run-on strings ending in pants (eg. InterCappedpants).

                                      The pcre search modifiers s///ig are for case-insensitive and global.

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                                      • richcarl@mastodon.nuR richcarl@mastodon.nu

                                        @cstross Protip: always do big renamings via an intermediate nonsense string.
                                        1) Globally rename the original string 'pants' to something that doesn't occur anywhere else, like 'xyzyx'.
                                        2) Search for the new string and step through all occurrences to check for mistakes like 'particixyzyx' and fix them. This is now an easy task.
                                        3) Rename all placeholders to the final string.

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                                        #71

                                        @richcarl Or you could use a regular expression. Hint: I once rewrote a UNIX man page for regular expressions as part of my day job back in the early 1990s. None of your search/replace tips are news to me.

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                                        • owent@mastodon.socialO owent@mastodon.social

                                          @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross

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                                          #72

                                          @owent @alicemcalicepants @nullcolaship @davidtheeviloverlord @cstross 🤣 🤣 🤣

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